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<blockquote data-quote="HardRightEdge" data-source="post: 612491"><p>I would not claim Cobb was the most sure-handed player in the league; certainly he drops some balls, though the debate over "how many", and whether the number is "good" or less so is a matter for debate, as illustrated earlier.</p><p></p><p>Further, I'm not completely averse to some subjective judgements going into the stats, judiciously applied on a limited basis.</p><p></p><p>However, in this case we have a two-variable equation where both variables have meaningful levels of subjectivity...what constitutes a "drop" and what constitutes a "catchable ball".</p><p></p><p>To draw an analogy, the NFL goes to great lengths in "coaching" referees. They put together tapes illustrating that this play is not a penalty, that play is a penalty, etc. with the intent of bringing some consistency to the process.</p><p></p><p>And how is that working out? Not very well, I would say. Different crew chiefs and ref crews have their own stubborn ideas about how the game should be played despite the league's best efforts. I believe there is a general consensus among fans and "professional" commentators alike that ref crews are meaningfully inconsistent, with teams actually scouting them for tendencies.</p><p></p><p>So, how is it we're to believe that PFF or anybody else is better able to enforce consistency in subjective calls among their many analysts? I don't think we can believe that.</p><p></p><p>Consequently, subjective variables should be kept to a minimum and reserved for those things where there's minimal margin for disagreement.</p><p></p><p>I'm inclined to value such numbers when the results from various sources are tightly clustered.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HardRightEdge, post: 612491"] I would not claim Cobb was the most sure-handed player in the league; certainly he drops some balls, though the debate over "how many", and whether the number is "good" or less so is a matter for debate, as illustrated earlier. Further, I'm not completely averse to some subjective judgements going into the stats, judiciously applied on a limited basis. However, in this case we have a two-variable equation where both variables have meaningful levels of subjectivity...what constitutes a "drop" and what constitutes a "catchable ball". To draw an analogy, the NFL goes to great lengths in "coaching" referees. They put together tapes illustrating that this play is not a penalty, that play is a penalty, etc. with the intent of bringing some consistency to the process. And how is that working out? Not very well, I would say. Different crew chiefs and ref crews have their own stubborn ideas about how the game should be played despite the league's best efforts. I believe there is a general consensus among fans and "professional" commentators alike that ref crews are meaningfully inconsistent, with teams actually scouting them for tendencies. So, how is it we're to believe that PFF or anybody else is better able to enforce consistency in subjective calls among their many analysts? I don't think we can believe that. Consequently, subjective variables should be kept to a minimum and reserved for those things where there's minimal margin for disagreement. I'm inclined to value such numbers when the results from various sources are tightly clustered. [/QUOTE]
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