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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Un4GivN" data-source="post: 803237" data-attributes="member: 8782">Where did I say they should lose on purpose? The Packers are just not very good, and they definitely don't have to give-up to lose. They have been meddling around for years, and changes are needed.Since 2006 (start of Mike McCarthy)New England 13 Conference Championship games / 5 Super Bowls (New England also were at 3 of 5 Super Bowls before this)Indy 4 Conference Championship games / 2 Super BowlsPittsburgh 4 Conference Championship games 2 Super BowlsSeattle 2 Conference Championship games / 2 Super BowlsDenver 2 Conference Championship games / 2 Super BowlsBaltimore 5 Conference Championship games/ 1 Super BowlGreen Bay 4 Conference Championship games / 1 Super BowlSo since that 2006... New England, Seattle, Baltimore, Indy, Pitt, Denver... Have all been more successful if you look at end results.At best, the Packers are the 7th best in that time frame. Which is pretty underwhelming when the fan base thinks they have the best quarterback in the history of EVER on their team. Making the playoffs again just to lose this year would be the end to another mediocre wasted season.</blockquote>

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