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<blockquote data-quote="Pokerbrat2000" data-source="post: 910334" data-attributes="member: 7261"><p>Whoever said this was about giving the player the upperhand?</p><p></p><p>Now you are moving the goalposts by using the terms "Significant" and "in the grand scheme of things" in order to try and make your initial statement more correct?</p><p></p><p>You originally stated that "only a few star players get upfront money or guarantees" and "the only reason owners do that is because of the positive impact it has on the current salary cap situation". I disagreed and my point was pretty clear, players, even potential long shot practice squad players, are getting upfront money. Again, look at the NFL contracts across the board. Of course $10,000 upfront is less than $100,000, $1 M or $100 M, but its reflective of the total value of the contract. I can imagine that most people would be beyond happy to have their new boss offer them a check like that.</p><p></p><p>You never addressed your theory on guarantees and cap manipulation, which to me is just a by product of the way the system works/evolved to and not as you claim, the only reason for Owners to guarantee money.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pokerbrat2000, post: 910334, member: 7261"] Whoever said this was about giving the player the upperhand? Now you are moving the goalposts by using the terms "Significant" and "in the grand scheme of things" in order to try and make your initial statement more correct? You originally stated that "only a few star players get upfront money or guarantees" and "the only reason owners do that is because of the positive impact it has on the current salary cap situation". I disagreed and my point was pretty clear, players, even potential long shot practice squad players, are getting upfront money. Again, look at the NFL contracts across the board. Of course $10,000 upfront is less than $100,000, $1 M or $100 M, but its reflective of the total value of the contract. I can imagine that most people would be beyond happy to have their new boss offer them a check like that. You never addressed your theory on guarantees and cap manipulation, which to me is just a by product of the way the system works/evolved to and not as you claim, the only reason for Owners to guarantee money. [/QUOTE]
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