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<blockquote data-quote="Magooch" data-source="post: 1078135" data-attributes="member: 17987"><p>Man, talk about irritable... <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-shortname=";)" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p>Let me state it more clearly:</p><p></p><p>1. The Browns have a good defense</p><p>2. Teams who are purported to be "worse" than the Packers had an easier time against that same defense than we did (talk about quality of opposition, eh?)</p><p>3. The Packers poor performance was a bigger factor than the Browns defense or the under-the-radar strength of 5-5* Panthers in the final results of these games</p><p></p><p></p><p>See: hyperbole, noun</p><p></p><p>I mean, yeah, technically true I guess? Personally I think we can use more than W-L record to assess a team's performance level, but... </p><p></p><p>Well, sure. I'm not sure how that's exactly germane to this discussion. I don't think the Panthers are a playoff team (or will be by the end of the season) but maybe you put more stock in their wins than I. </p><p></p><p>Here is all I am saying - allow me to distill it into two simple questions in return:</p><p></p><p>1. If you had to pick, which was a bigger factor in the Packers' loss to the Browns: The Browns' elite defense, or the Packers playing below their potential?</p><p>2. If you had to pick, which was a bigger factor in the Packers' loss to the Panthers: The Panthers being better than their record would suggest, or the Packers playing below their potential? </p><p></p><p>For me the answer is equally simple: The single biggest factor in both of these losses is the Packers' poor play in both games. </p><p></p><p>Regardless of how good Cleveland's defense is, if Green Bay plays even remotely close to their potential it's not an issue (again, as evidenced by other teams' offensive performances against this same defense)</p><p></p><p>Regardless of how indicative of their overall quality Carolina's record is (or isn't), if Green Bay plays even remotely close to their potential it's not an issue. </p><p></p><p>(And this is just as true in some of our other non-loss performances too, IMO)</p><p></p><p>If someone is of the mind that Cleveland or Carolina were a "good loss" because they came against a good defense or good team or whatnot, that's fine. Personally I am of the opinion that both were "bad losses" as they came against teams that we should have readily expected to win against. And the point that I think Poker and myself are trying to make is that A.) this level or "type" of performance has come up far too often and B.) we won't get very far if that continues to be the case.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Magooch, post: 1078135, member: 17987"] Man, talk about irritable... ;) Let me state it more clearly: 1. The Browns have a good defense 2. Teams who are purported to be "worse" than the Packers had an easier time against that same defense than we did (talk about quality of opposition, eh?) 3. The Packers poor performance was a bigger factor than the Browns defense or the under-the-radar strength of 5-5* Panthers in the final results of these games See: hyperbole, noun I mean, yeah, technically true I guess? Personally I think we can use more than W-L record to assess a team's performance level, but... Well, sure. I'm not sure how that's exactly germane to this discussion. I don't think the Panthers are a playoff team (or will be by the end of the season) but maybe you put more stock in their wins than I. Here is all I am saying - allow me to distill it into two simple questions in return: 1. If you had to pick, which was a bigger factor in the Packers' loss to the Browns: The Browns' elite defense, or the Packers playing below their potential? 2. If you had to pick, which was a bigger factor in the Packers' loss to the Panthers: The Panthers being better than their record would suggest, or the Packers playing below their potential? For me the answer is equally simple: The single biggest factor in both of these losses is the Packers' poor play in both games. Regardless of how good Cleveland's defense is, if Green Bay plays even remotely close to their potential it's not an issue (again, as evidenced by other teams' offensive performances against this same defense) Regardless of how indicative of their overall quality Carolina's record is (or isn't), if Green Bay plays even remotely close to their potential it's not an issue. (And this is just as true in some of our other non-loss performances too, IMO) If someone is of the mind that Cleveland or Carolina were a "good loss" because they came against a good defense or good team or whatnot, that's fine. Personally I am of the opinion that both were "bad losses" as they came against teams that we should have readily expected to win against. And the point that I think Poker and myself are trying to make is that A.) this level or "type" of performance has come up far too often and B.) we won't get very far if that continues to be the case. [/QUOTE]
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