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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GleefulGary" data-source="post: 824197" data-attributes="member: 12583">Uh...yes. Box safeties simply aren't that valuable. OBLB's simply aren't that valuable. They don't win games for teams.Luke Keuchly is freaking amazing. A great player. They still had an average to below average defense. Landon Collins is very good! The NYG's had one of the worst defenses in the league.You like to talk about Seattle. Seattle had an awesome defense. Bobby Wagner, obviously, was a big part of that. But the pass rush they had mattered more than Bobby Wagner did there. I think both Smith's are above average players, and a clear upgrade to what we have that will make a greater impact than what Landon Collins would have.</blockquote>

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