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<blockquote data-quote="HardRightEdge" data-source="post: 663946"><p>Buffalo took Ragland and Listenbee, two guys I wanted the Packers to take. I'll be seeing them this year in the half dozen or so Bills games I usually watch.</p><p></p><p>I looked at Listenbee's tape on Amish's recommendation. The guy played his senior year with a double sports hernia, ran 4.39 at the Combine with those hernias, followed by surgery. This guy isn't some Ted Ginn or Heyward-Bey, where it was always an adventure in their tracking a deep ball, and then a further adventure in their actually trying to catch it if they could find it. His ball tracking is outstanding, good hands, and competitive at the ball.</p><p></p><p>The Packers could have taken Listenbee in the 5th. instead of Davis. Maybe they liked Davis' return potential. Or maybe they just didn't like Listenbee's cockiness, something that would not bother Rex Ryan.</p><p></p><p>Here's the thing...Listenbee's boasts are not unjustified. He claimed he would have gotten into the 4.2's without the hernias, and might have broken the Combine record. That's justified. This guy ran a 10.02 wind aided 100 meters which is blazing fast in the post-steroid era. Highly decorated college sprinter. He claims he would be on the Olympic team, but he's going to focus on football. Again, if it were just speed, it wouldn't matter...track and catch is what you need to effectively stretch the field...the QB can put the ball over either shoulder away from any defender or closing safety. This is something you'll never ever get from Janis...he's just not that kind of player.</p><p></p><p>I can't help but think the cockiness was a Packer turnoff, even if it is a common trait of the wideouts and perimeter corners (along with short memories) who are constantly exposed to the TV camera in one-on-ones in space.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HardRightEdge, post: 663946"] Buffalo took Ragland and Listenbee, two guys I wanted the Packers to take. I'll be seeing them this year in the half dozen or so Bills games I usually watch. I looked at Listenbee's tape on Amish's recommendation. The guy played his senior year with a double sports hernia, ran 4.39 at the Combine with those hernias, followed by surgery. This guy isn't some Ted Ginn or Heyward-Bey, where it was always an adventure in their tracking a deep ball, and then a further adventure in their actually trying to catch it if they could find it. His ball tracking is outstanding, good hands, and competitive at the ball. The Packers could have taken Listenbee in the 5th. instead of Davis. Maybe they liked Davis' return potential. Or maybe they just didn't like Listenbee's cockiness, something that would not bother Rex Ryan. Here's the thing...Listenbee's boasts are not unjustified. He claimed he would have gotten into the 4.2's without the hernias, and might have broken the Combine record. That's justified. This guy ran a 10.02 wind aided 100 meters which is blazing fast in the post-steroid era. Highly decorated college sprinter. He claims he would be on the Olympic team, but he's going to focus on football. Again, if it were just speed, it wouldn't matter...track and catch is what you need to effectively stretch the field...the QB can put the ball over either shoulder away from any defender or closing safety. This is something you'll never ever get from Janis...he's just not that kind of player. I can't help but think the cockiness was a Packer turnoff, even if it is a common trait of the wideouts and perimeter corners (along with short memories) who are constantly exposed to the TV camera in one-on-ones in space. [/QUOTE]
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