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<blockquote data-quote="Mondio" data-source="post: 781849" data-attributes="member: 10441"><p>why would you call him a mistake? you guys are harsh. A mistake is drafting a guy like Manziel. A guy you can see has the maturity of an 8 year old and the who's greatest attribute was playing backyard ball throwing weak passes to wide open receivers in college, but still taking him before round 4. That's a mistake. Rollins came in, had a pretty good rookie season. Was part of the reason NOBODY said **** about losing Hayward and then played another year injured the entire time and then tore an achilles and missed an entire season again. I think it's a little unfair to judge a guy like that as a mistake. We certainly haven't gotten the production we'd like out of a 2nd rounder overall. But what was his PFF rating after rookie? what were people saying about him then? what did us as fans think of him then? 2 seasons pretty much lost or hampered by injury is what you use to call him a mistake? Man, harsh. He probably won't ever live up to it either. Ruptured achilles took down Revis Island to a mere mortal, Rollins wasn't Revis to start with. </p><p></p><p>as for Randall, i'm sure Gute did see Randalls value. They probably decided as a staff, they didn't want to deal with him. I'm not going to fault them for it either. I'm much happier with a respectfully confident Alexander and his athleticism and the polar opposite, but equally intense Jackson with King and Williams than any part of a guy I thought had the skills to be good and the mind to prevent him from being great. The Browns can have him. I don't care if he's successful or not. He had more success here than people want to give credit for, and he could play DB, and play it well. When he was actually playing within the scheme. People don't want to see it for whatever reason. That's fine I guess. He's gone.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mondio, post: 781849, member: 10441"] why would you call him a mistake? you guys are harsh. A mistake is drafting a guy like Manziel. A guy you can see has the maturity of an 8 year old and the who's greatest attribute was playing backyard ball throwing weak passes to wide open receivers in college, but still taking him before round 4. That's a mistake. Rollins came in, had a pretty good rookie season. Was part of the reason NOBODY said **** about losing Hayward and then played another year injured the entire time and then tore an achilles and missed an entire season again. I think it's a little unfair to judge a guy like that as a mistake. We certainly haven't gotten the production we'd like out of a 2nd rounder overall. But what was his PFF rating after rookie? what were people saying about him then? what did us as fans think of him then? 2 seasons pretty much lost or hampered by injury is what you use to call him a mistake? Man, harsh. He probably won't ever live up to it either. Ruptured achilles took down Revis Island to a mere mortal, Rollins wasn't Revis to start with. as for Randall, i'm sure Gute did see Randalls value. They probably decided as a staff, they didn't want to deal with him. I'm not going to fault them for it either. I'm much happier with a respectfully confident Alexander and his athleticism and the polar opposite, but equally intense Jackson with King and Williams than any part of a guy I thought had the skills to be good and the mind to prevent him from being great. The Browns can have him. I don't care if he's successful or not. He had more success here than people want to give credit for, and he could play DB, and play it well. When he was actually playing within the scheme. People don't want to see it for whatever reason. That's fine I guess. He's gone. [/QUOTE]
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