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Message: <blockquote data-quote="sschind" data-source="post: 842561" data-attributes="member: 10247">Sack totals are ONE relevant statistic.  The issue people have with your argument is that you seem to think it is the most important one while others, myself included, don't feel that way.  Personally, I think sacks are over rated.  We have already talked about pressures and hurries and hits etc.  HRE mentioned forced holding calls and then there are tackles for losses against players other than the QB.  Essentially what you could call negative outcome plays for the offense.  All are helpful and I can think of times when a sack would be less desirable than one of the other outcomes. Take this scenario:   You are down 1 point in the game.  You are on defense and the opposing team has a  third and 5 at their own 35 yard line.  There is a minute 30 seconds left and you have no timeouts left.  Instead of running the ball to run more time of the clock the offense decides to go for the kill and calls a pass play.  You sack the QB for a 6 yard loss and they run off 35 seconds before they punt the ball.  Or, you pressure the QB and he throws a bad pass an the ball falls incomplete stopping the clock and they have to punt.  You just saved your offense 30 seconds by not sacking the QB. I don't think anyone is claiming you are calling him a bust.  I've never heard it.  All I hear is you keep mentioning his college sack totals. A lot of people were down on the pick and I understand why.  They were falling into the same trap you did.  Focusing on college sack totals. After playing 1400 snaps (I don't know if that is accurate or you just made the number up but it doesn't matter we all know he played a lot of snaps so the actual number doesn't matter) I will admit that on the surface I would expect that a player with Gary's abilities to have more sacks.  That is on the surface looking at the equation snaps + ability = sacks.  However, it goes a lot deeper than that.  Many people including former coaches and team mates have discounted his lack of sacks stating that the disruption he caused was far more valuable.  Simply put if Gary's effort on a particular play resulted in another player getting the sack what difference does it make who gets the sack.</blockquote>

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