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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dantés" data-source="post: 870444" data-attributes="member: 12283">I've been posting a little bit in various parts of the forum about players in this class who fit Packer draft tendencies. If people don't know what I'm talking about-- because Ted Thompson was in charge of the GB draft room for so long, a big sample size was developed for various positions, and the measurables of these prospects revealed certain tendencies and guidelines.These shouldn't be viewed as rules set in stone. They are violated at times, and seem to hold more weight towards the top of drafts. The long and short of it all is that the Packers like weight adjusted speed and three cone times, along with agility scores generally on offensive line, as well as height minimums at certain positions. TT obviously isn't in charge any more, but Gutekunst doesn't seem to have totally abandoned the tendencies. With a couple of exceptions, his guys have remained "on type."So I thought I would compile the notable Packer types from this class, as well as the notable "disqualified" guys. It should be noted that a ton of guys are missing data. Lots of guys opted not to do agilities at the combine due to the new schedule, and now we aren't getting pro days.WR: The Packers avoid shorter receivers (under 6'), slower receivers (beyond 4.56), and guys with poor flexibility/COD in the 3C (beyond 7.08). Randall Cobb was the notable exception from the TT era, which illustrates that these are tendencies, not hard rules. Gutekunst has basically stuck to this so far, with the exception of J'mon Moore's 4.60 at the combine (later improved to a 4.48 at his pro day). Qualifiers:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Denzel Mims, Baylor: 6'3", 207, 4.38, 6.66</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Michael Pittman, USC: 6'4", 223, 4.52, 6.96</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Gabriel Davis, UCF: 6'2", 4.54, 7.08</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">John Hightower, BSU: 6'1", 4.43, 7.07</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Freddie Swain, Florida: 6'0", 4.46, 7.05</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">K.J. Osborn, Miami: 5'11", 4.48, 7.0</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Aaron Parker, Rhode Island: 6'2", 4.57, 6.94</li> </ul>Notably "Disqualified":<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Henry Ruggs, Alabama: 5'11"</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Jalen Reagor, TCU: 5'11", 7.31</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Laviska Shenault, Colorado: 4.58</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">K.J. Hamler, Penn State: 5'9"</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Devin Duvernay, Memphis: 5'10", 7.13</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Lynn Bowden, Kentucky: 5'11"</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Antonio Gandy-Golden, Libery: 4.60, 7.33</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">K.J. Hill, Ohio State: 4.60</li> </ul>Notably Missing Data:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Jerry Jeudy, Alabama: 6'1", 4.45, no 3C</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Ceedee Lamb, Oklahoma: 6'2", 4.50, no 3C</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Justin Jefferson, LSU: 6'2", 4.43, no 3C</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Brandon Aiyuk, Arizona State: 6'0", 4.50, no 3C</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Tee Higgins, Clemson: 6'4", 4.54, no 3C (pro day forty)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Bryan Edwards, South Carolina: 6'3", no forty, no 3C</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Chase Claypool, Notre Dame: 6'4", 4.42, no 3C</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Van Jefferson, Florida: 6'1", no forty, no 3C</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Antonio Gibson, Memphis: 6'0", 4.38, no 3C</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Donovan Peoples-Jones, Michigan: 6'2", 4.48, no 3C</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Joe Reed, Virginia: 6'0", 4.47, no 3C</li> </ul>OL: The Packers generally have avoided short offensive linemen. With Linsley being a notable exception, their choices both inside and outside have generally been at least 6'3.5". Additionally, they like a good combo of agility scores-- sub 7.80 in the 3C and 4.80 in the SS. Qualifiers:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Andrew Thomas, OT, Georgia: 6'5", 7.58 3C, 4.66 SS</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Tristan Wirfs, OT, Iowa: 6'5", 7.65 3C, 4.68 SS</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Ezra Cleveland, OT, Boise State: 6'6", 7.26 3C, 4.46 SS</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Matt Hennessy, C/G, Temple: 6'4", 7.45 3C, 4.60 SS</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Alex Taylor, OT, South Carolina State: 6'8", 7.77 3C, 4.79 SS</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Jon Runyan, OT/G,  Michigan: 6'4", 7.57 3C, 4.69 SS</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Danny Pinter, G/C, Ball State: 6'4", 7.76 3C, 4.62 SS</li> </ul>Notably Disqualified:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Jedrick Wills, OT, Alabama: 4.84 SS</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Cesar Ruiz, C, Michigan: 6'3", 7.91 3C, 4.64 SS</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Austin Jackson, OT, USC: 7.95 3C</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Isaiah Wilson, OT, Georgia: 8.26 3C, 5.07 SS</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Lloyd Cushenberry, C, LSU: 6'3"</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Netane Muti, G, Fresno State: 6'3"</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Matt Peart, OT, Connecticut: 8.01 3C, 4.92 SS</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Jonah Jackson, G, Ohio State: 6'3", 7.83 3C, 5.02 SS</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Nick Harris, C, Washington: 6'1"</li> </ul>Notably Missing Data:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Mekhi Becton, OT, Louisville: 6'7", no drills</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Josh Jones, OT, Houston: 6'5", no drills</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Lucas Niang, OT, TCU: 6'6", no drills</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Jack Driscoll, OT, Auburn: 6'5", no drills</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Ben Bartch, OT, St. Johns: 6'6", no drills</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Robert Hunt, G/OT, La. Lafayette: 6'5", no drills</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Saahdiq Charles, OT, LSU: 6'4", no drills</li> </ul>CB: The Packers like guys with height, but seem willing to go down to 5'10" if the right player is there. Speed and agility are the major factors-- nothing above 4.57 in the forty and above 6.90 in the 3C. This position more than others is one that I think it adversely affected by the schedule change and the agility drills being later-- nearly all of the top corners either ran relatively bad times or decided not to participate. Qualifiers:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">K'von Wallace, Clemson: 5'11", 4.53 forty, 6.76 3C</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Michael Ojemudia, Iowa: 6'1", 4.45 forty, 6.87 3C</li> </ul>Notably Disqualified:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Jaylon Johnson, Utah: 7.01 3C</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Kristian Fulton, LSU: 6.94 3C</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">A.J. Terrell, Clemson: 7.09 3C (pro day)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Jeff Gladney, TCU: 7.26 3C</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Cameron Danztler, Miss. State: 4.64 forty</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Amik Robertson, La. Tech: 5'8"</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Troy Pride, Notre Dame: 6.94 3C</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Javaris Davis, Auburn: 5'8"</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Dane Jackson, Pittsburgh: 7.07 3C</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Reggie Robinson, Tulsa: 7.09 3C</li> </ul>Notably Missing Data:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Jeff Okudah, Ohio State: 6'1", 4.48 forty, no 3C</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Trevon Diggs, Alabama: 6'1", no drills</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Damon Arnette, Ohio State: 6'0", 4.56 forty, no 3C</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Noah Igbinoghene, Auburn: 5'10", 4.48 forty, no 3C</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Bryce Hall, Virginia: 6'1", no drills</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Terrell Burgess, Utah: 5'11", 4.46 forty, no 3C</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Darnay Holmes, UCLA: 5'10", 4.48 forty, no 3C</li> </ul>iDL: The method has not been as exact for this position, so the guidelines are more general. At this position, look for good weight-adjusted numbers in the forty and the three cone (sense a theme?). It also seems that the guidelines fall away in the mid and late rounds at this position, so I will only look at the relatively highly rated players. I don't know exactly where the line should fall in terms of 3C time, but this class makes it easy: there is a massive gap between the good ones and everyone else's. The two qualifiers are in the 81st%. The next best guy after them is in the 45th%. So I am assuming the line would be somewhere in the space of that statistical chasm. Qualifiers:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Justin Madubuike, Texas AM: 293#, 4.83 forty, 7.37 3C</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">James Lynch, Baylor: 289#, 5.01 forty, 7.39 3C</li> </ul>Notably Disqualified:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Derrick Brown, Auburn: 8.26 3C</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Ross Blacklock, TCU: 7.77 3C</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Raekwon Davis, Alabama: 7.95 3C</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Neville Gallimore, Oklahoma: 7.97 3C</li> </ul>Notably Missing Data:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Javon Kinlaw, South Carolina: 324#, no drills</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Jordan Elliott, Missouri: 302#, 5.02, no 3C</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Marlon Davison, Auburn: 303#, 5.04, no 3C</li> </ul>At linebacker, TT never picked enough of them to establish a sample size, but it's probably safe to assume that they like a combination of size, speed and agility. So I'm just going to say keep an eye on Malik Harrison (OSU), Logan Wilson (Wyoming), Willie Gay Jr (MSU), Shaun Bradley (Temple), and Mykal Walker (Fresno State). Patrick Queen, Kenneth Murray, and Jordan Brooks didn't provide agility numbers.</blockquote>

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