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<blockquote data-quote="FrankRizzo" data-source="post: 414750" data-attributes="member: 2232"><p>I've seen Packer fans here and other sites who said we were unbeatable.</p><p>I commented on some of them.</p><p> </p><p>There is no such thing as unbeatable.</p><p> </p><p>Number one, we've never had to play a stretch of games without our #1 receiver, Greg Jennings. People under-estimate how great he is, as people under-estimated how great Nick Collins was. Not sure why that is.... maybe just arrogance, or maybe because we overcame a ton of injuries last year. But they weren't key guys other than Finley.</p><p> </p><p>And you are seeing how overrated Finley was. He A) drops way too many passes, B) doesn't even get seperation on anyone anymore.... the Chiefs got guys way more open than he gets. So do 2 tight ends on the Patriots.</p><p> </p><p>And the other reason I said we were beatable (see the poll), was because our defense SUCKS. Turnovers are partly luck. Great QBs don't serve up Ints. Drew Brees didn't to us in week one, and he didn't when we played him a few years ago. When we do not get turnovers, our defense SUCKS PERIOD. </p><p></p><p>They can't get 3 & outs ever. They can't get field position for us. </p><p></p><p>It started like that today with the first drive of the game. 2 short runs and it was 3rd & 8 at the KC 22 yard line. Capers called a great blitz from the edge by safety Burnett, who came in untouched at Orton. But the bast*rd Sam Shields couldn't even cover for 2 seconds as he fell down. Just fell down. </p><p>Allowed a first down instead of an early 3 & out which would have given us great field position. On the rest of that drive to start the game, we allowed a few more 3rd down conversions as they marched to the 1-yard line and settled for the FG.</p><p> </p><p>Even though our defense held them to FGs most of the time, they allowed the Chiefs to keep the ball too long, move the chains, and keep Rodgers off the field, out of rythym.</p><p> </p><p>Not only did that keep us out of rythym, it kept Tamba Hali fresh.</p><p> </p><p>We've seen our defense carved up many times this year like this, but we usually got bailed out by bad passes for Ints. Today, we saw Woodson bite on one, and it allowed the guy to be wide open... and no pick.</p><p> </p><p>Our defense is suspect, and Drew Brees would light us up right now for about 50 points. Hell, I think Tebow's Broncos would carve us up... you see our run defense on the final drive of the game when we knew KC would run to try and run the clock out? THEY STILL RAN RIGHT THRU US, inside, and outside, easy first downs. Pathetic. Knowing they were running, we still didn't come close to stopping them there. Denver would rush for 350 yards on the defense we saw today.</p><p> </p><p>Where are those fans who said we were unbeatable because we had Aaron Rodgers, now?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FrankRizzo, post: 414750, member: 2232"] I've seen Packer fans here and other sites who said we were unbeatable. I commented on some of them. There is no such thing as unbeatable. Number one, we've never had to play a stretch of games without our #1 receiver, Greg Jennings. People under-estimate how great he is, as people under-estimated how great Nick Collins was. Not sure why that is.... maybe just arrogance, or maybe because we overcame a ton of injuries last year. But they weren't key guys other than Finley. And you are seeing how overrated Finley was. He A) drops way too many passes, B) doesn't even get seperation on anyone anymore.... the Chiefs got guys way more open than he gets. So do 2 tight ends on the Patriots. And the other reason I said we were beatable (see the poll), was because our defense SUCKS. Turnovers are partly luck. Great QBs don't serve up Ints. Drew Brees didn't to us in week one, and he didn't when we played him a few years ago. When we do not get turnovers, our defense SUCKS PERIOD. They can't get 3 & outs ever. They can't get field position for us. It started like that today with the first drive of the game. 2 short runs and it was 3rd & 8 at the KC 22 yard line. Capers called a great blitz from the edge by safety Burnett, who came in untouched at Orton. But the bast*rd Sam Shields couldn't even cover for 2 seconds as he fell down. Just fell down. Allowed a first down instead of an early 3 & out which would have given us great field position. On the rest of that drive to start the game, we allowed a few more 3rd down conversions as they marched to the 1-yard line and settled for the FG. Even though our defense held them to FGs most of the time, they allowed the Chiefs to keep the ball too long, move the chains, and keep Rodgers off the field, out of rythym. Not only did that keep us out of rythym, it kept Tamba Hali fresh. We've seen our defense carved up many times this year like this, but we usually got bailed out by bad passes for Ints. Today, we saw Woodson bite on one, and it allowed the guy to be wide open... and no pick. Our defense is suspect, and Drew Brees would light us up right now for about 50 points. Hell, I think Tebow's Broncos would carve us up... you see our run defense on the final drive of the game when we knew KC would run to try and run the clock out? THEY STILL RAN RIGHT THRU US, inside, and outside, easy first downs. Pathetic. Knowing they were running, we still didn't come close to stopping them there. Denver would rush for 350 yards on the defense we saw today. Where are those fans who said we were unbeatable because we had Aaron Rodgers, now? [/QUOTE]
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