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<blockquote data-quote="mradtke66" data-source="post: 839529" data-attributes="member: 4199"><p>Situation 3 is really a sub-option of situation 2. And I disagree option is an end to his time in Green Bay, although it certainly posses some risk.</p><p></p><p>They have three options, though one is strikes me as foolish:</p><p></p><p>1a) Do nothing, keep him on the 53.</p><p></p><p>2a) Keep him on the 53, then IR after day 1, allowing them the option bring him back after 6 weeks.</p><p></p><p>3a) IR him before he makes it to the 53.</p><p></p><p>Option 3 is a misnomer, because that's not what happens. He'll get <strong>Waived-Injured</strong>.</p><p></p><p>Once Waived-Injured, it's either:</p><p></p><p>1b) Another team claims him and good bye.</p><p></p><p>2b) Another team does not claim him (This strikes me as likely, as he's not that great of a player and he's injured.)</p><p></p><p>Assuming another team doesn't claim him, he reverts to our regular IR.</p><p></p><p>Once on our regular IR our options are:</p><p></p><p>1c) Do nothing. He's on IR. We retain his rights.</p><p></p><p>2c) Reach an injury settlement</p><p></p><p>3c) He enters the minor injury designation pergatory. IE, once healthy, he's cut.</p><p></p><p><strong>2c and 3c</strong> only happen if the Packers no longer want him. Certainly possible, but why would you throw away a cheap rookie when you could have him 2 more years?</p><p></p><p><strong>2c</strong> also allows them the option to bring him back later in the season freely without playing return from IR games. Risk being someone else could snag him once healthy.</p><p></p><p><strong>3c </strong>is the nuke option. If that happens, the Packers are not allowed to re-sign him. (Exactly for how long, I'm not sure. The rest of the league year? Not until another team signs and cuts him? I cannot find the rules for this spelled out.)</p><p></p><p>Now, if we end up down the decision tree at <strong>1c </strong> and he's on our IR, we have his rights, the next steps are:</p><p></p><p>1d) Do nothing. He stays on IR.</p><p></p><p>2d) St. Brown asks for his release.</p><p></p><p>3d) St. Brown files a grievance with the league saying he was placed on IR incorrectly.</p><p></p><p>4d) St. Brown thinks he was placed on IR incorrectly is fine with it.</p><p></p><p><strong>2d</strong> can happen with any player anytime. If the team wants to keep you, they'll just say no. If he's healthy, and the Packers choose to grant his release, we revert to <strong>3c.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>3d</strong> can also be done by any player. You think the team is acting outside of the rules laid out in the CBA. In the case of an improper IR use, that'd be something like slight back tightness and the team put him on IR to stash him.</p><p></p><p>Once the grievance is filed, whatever their arbitrator clauses is invoked. Either</p><p></p><p>1e) The IR-placing is ruled improper, and we're back to <strong>3c, player is cut.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p>2e) The IR-placing is ruled Proper and we're back to <strong>1d, we retain his rights. </strong><em>I suspect this would be the ruling, based on my understanding of IR rules. IR is for major injuries that prevent play and practice for 6 or more weeks. Initial diagnosis has a 6 week time window on it. Thus, likely a proper placing of the player on IR </em></p><p></p><p>The final wrinkle in all of this <strong>4d</strong> above. If he doesn't want to fight being placed on IR even if he thinks he could return sooner than 6 weeks. This may or may not be a good play on his part.</p><p></p><p>In short:</p><p></p><p>• If he's gone early with an injury settlement, the Packers likely don't want to keep him and the injury made the decision easier.</p><p></p><p>• If he's on IR with us all year, both parties are fine with him sticking around.</p><p></p><p>• If the team wants to keep him but St Brown wants out, we'll hear about the grievance being filed</p><p></p><p>• If he's cut later without word of a settlement, he was placed on IR with the intent of cutting him once healthy, ie, minor-injury designation, ie, short-term-IR, ie, <strong>3c</strong> above.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mradtke66, post: 839529, member: 4199"] Situation 3 is really a sub-option of situation 2. And I disagree option is an end to his time in Green Bay, although it certainly posses some risk. They have three options, though one is strikes me as foolish: 1a) Do nothing, keep him on the 53. 2a) Keep him on the 53, then IR after day 1, allowing them the option bring him back after 6 weeks. 3a) IR him before he makes it to the 53. Option 3 is a misnomer, because that's not what happens. He'll get [B]Waived-Injured[/B]. Once Waived-Injured, it's either: 1b) Another team claims him and good bye. 2b) Another team does not claim him (This strikes me as likely, as he's not that great of a player and he's injured.) Assuming another team doesn't claim him, he reverts to our regular IR. Once on our regular IR our options are: 1c) Do nothing. He's on IR. We retain his rights. 2c) Reach an injury settlement 3c) He enters the minor injury designation pergatory. IE, once healthy, he's cut. [B]2c and 3c[/B] only happen if the Packers no longer want him. Certainly possible, but why would you throw away a cheap rookie when you could have him 2 more years? [B]2c[/B] also allows them the option to bring him back later in the season freely without playing return from IR games. Risk being someone else could snag him once healthy. [B]3c [/B]is the nuke option. If that happens, the Packers are not allowed to re-sign him. (Exactly for how long, I'm not sure. The rest of the league year? Not until another team signs and cuts him? I cannot find the rules for this spelled out.) Now, if we end up down the decision tree at [B]1c [/B] and he's on our IR, we have his rights, the next steps are: 1d) Do nothing. He stays on IR. 2d) St. Brown asks for his release. 3d) St. Brown files a grievance with the league saying he was placed on IR incorrectly. 4d) St. Brown thinks he was placed on IR incorrectly is fine with it. [B]2d[/B] can happen with any player anytime. If the team wants to keep you, they'll just say no. If he's healthy, and the Packers choose to grant his release, we revert to [B]3c. 3d[/B] can also be done by any player. You think the team is acting outside of the rules laid out in the CBA. In the case of an improper IR use, that'd be something like slight back tightness and the team put him on IR to stash him. Once the grievance is filed, whatever their arbitrator clauses is invoked. Either 1e) The IR-placing is ruled improper, and we're back to [B]3c, player is cut. [/B] 2e) The IR-placing is ruled Proper and we're back to [B]1d, we retain his rights. [/B][I]I suspect this would be the ruling, based on my understanding of IR rules. IR is for major injuries that prevent play and practice for 6 or more weeks. Initial diagnosis has a 6 week time window on it. Thus, likely a proper placing of the player on IR [/I] [B][/B] The final wrinkle in all of this [B]4d[/B] above. If he doesn't want to fight being placed on IR even if he thinks he could return sooner than 6 weeks. This may or may not be a good play on his part. In short: • If he's gone early with an injury settlement, the Packers likely don't want to keep him and the injury made the decision easier. • If he's on IR with us all year, both parties are fine with him sticking around. • If the team wants to keep him but St Brown wants out, we'll hear about the grievance being filed • If he's cut later without word of a settlement, he was placed on IR with the intent of cutting him once healthy, ie, minor-injury designation, ie, short-term-IR, ie, [B]3c[/B] above. [/QUOTE]
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