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<blockquote data-quote="mradtke66" data-source="post: 937031" data-attributes="member: 4199"><p>This is kind of where I am. Is he drawing up good schemes? I don't think we as fans can know. Head coach should be able to pass/fail that after the season.</p><p></p><p>Is he teaching his guys the right things? Are they fired up? Again, that sounds like a HC call.</p><p></p><p>Obviously something is going wrong on game day. My only real nit is what is the mistake? Are they correctable ones? Or have they been corrected and the players in question are trash?</p><p></p><p>The kick out of bounds, that looks like Crosby slipped or something? Or just an intentional squib-ish kick that went wrong? I have a hard time blaming anyone for a "trick shot" that Crosby ended up putting a little too much english on. Bad outcome, but was it a bad decision? (I'd vote no.)</p><p></p><p>Place kicking was fine.</p><p></p><p>Kick/punt coverage was poor. Why though? I don't just say (not you specifically Mondio, the royal you) "coaching." What part of it? To my eye, the backside left their lanes when the kicker started to go right and when he reversed field, outside contain man was too far in.</p><p></p><p>Kick return...what a mixed bag. On one hand Taylor messed up. Is he just not the kind of person who should be returning kicks because he doesn't have the right kind of awareness? On the other, he was probably worried about the kick dying on the 5 yard line? </p><p></p><p>Amari...even worse. Either he needs to be pulled and/or he needs a jugs machine at home to catch punts. I couldn't catch a punt to save my life, but I know the theory behind it. It doesn't look anything like what he tried on that muff. The counterpoint to his terrible muffs is that he averaged 14 yard per return last night. That implies to me once he has the ball in his hand, the light might finally be starting to turn on.</p><p></p><p>If we're going to replace him, who on the roster can do it? We just tried Taylor. It went poorly. We tried Cobb. He muffed it too and now he's on IR. I'd like to sign Ervin, but is he healthy yet?</p><p></p><p>That kind of brings me to where I am right now. More questions than answers. The one thing I am feel pretty confident about is we don't have a good returner on the roster. We don't even have that crafty vet to fair catch it and not mess something up right now. That's not a coaching problem, that's a GM issue. Similarly, if the HC won't let the STC use the entire 52 man roster (obviously we exclude the Qb) on his units, and he's got trash players, how is that the STC's fault?</p><p></p><p>The second musing I have is that grouping special teams under one coach makes it easy to be lazy with criticism. Blocked kick? Special teams sucks. Returner fumbles? Special teams sucks. Half the coverage guys spontaneously combust, which results in the other team running one back for a TD? Special teams sucks. With special teams basically being a team within the team (2 coverage, 2 return, place kicking units) it *almost* makes sense to have a dedicated assistant for coverage, returns, and place. There probably isn't enough work for 3 special teams coaches, but with the split between DT and EDGE position coaches, safeties vs. corners on some teams already, I wouldn't be surprised if it happens someday.</p><p></p><p>And then there is the whole thing that I don't know of a single team that employs a kicking or punting coach who *actually* knows how to kick or punt. My understanding is those guys come into the league knowing their job or pay for private coaching in the offseason...</p><p></p><p>TL, DR: I gots more questions than answer.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mradtke66, post: 937031, member: 4199"] This is kind of where I am. Is he drawing up good schemes? I don't think we as fans can know. Head coach should be able to pass/fail that after the season. Is he teaching his guys the right things? Are they fired up? Again, that sounds like a HC call. Obviously something is going wrong on game day. My only real nit is what is the mistake? Are they correctable ones? Or have they been corrected and the players in question are trash? The kick out of bounds, that looks like Crosby slipped or something? Or just an intentional squib-ish kick that went wrong? I have a hard time blaming anyone for a "trick shot" that Crosby ended up putting a little too much english on. Bad outcome, but was it a bad decision? (I'd vote no.) Place kicking was fine. Kick/punt coverage was poor. Why though? I don't just say (not you specifically Mondio, the royal you) "coaching." What part of it? To my eye, the backside left their lanes when the kicker started to go right and when he reversed field, outside contain man was too far in. Kick return...what a mixed bag. On one hand Taylor messed up. Is he just not the kind of person who should be returning kicks because he doesn't have the right kind of awareness? On the other, he was probably worried about the kick dying on the 5 yard line? Amari...even worse. Either he needs to be pulled and/or he needs a jugs machine at home to catch punts. I couldn't catch a punt to save my life, but I know the theory behind it. It doesn't look anything like what he tried on that muff. The counterpoint to his terrible muffs is that he averaged 14 yard per return last night. That implies to me once he has the ball in his hand, the light might finally be starting to turn on. If we're going to replace him, who on the roster can do it? We just tried Taylor. It went poorly. We tried Cobb. He muffed it too and now he's on IR. I'd like to sign Ervin, but is he healthy yet? That kind of brings me to where I am right now. More questions than answers. The one thing I am feel pretty confident about is we don't have a good returner on the roster. We don't even have that crafty vet to fair catch it and not mess something up right now. That's not a coaching problem, that's a GM issue. Similarly, if the HC won't let the STC use the entire 52 man roster (obviously we exclude the Qb) on his units, and he's got trash players, how is that the STC's fault? The second musing I have is that grouping special teams under one coach makes it easy to be lazy with criticism. Blocked kick? Special teams sucks. Returner fumbles? Special teams sucks. Half the coverage guys spontaneously combust, which results in the other team running one back for a TD? Special teams sucks. With special teams basically being a team within the team (2 coverage, 2 return, place kicking units) it *almost* makes sense to have a dedicated assistant for coverage, returns, and place. There probably isn't enough work for 3 special teams coaches, but with the split between DT and EDGE position coaches, safeties vs. corners on some teams already, I wouldn't be surprised if it happens someday. And then there is the whole thing that I don't know of a single team that employs a kicking or punting coach who *actually* knows how to kick or punt. My understanding is those guys come into the league knowing their job or pay for private coaching in the offseason... TL, DR: I gots more questions than answer. [/QUOTE]
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