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<blockquote data-quote="Brian Demarest" data-source="post: 627069" data-attributes="member: 11210"><p>Tree was a league leading LB in tackles. His speed will be missed. Joyner has struggled. If you think the stats of the secondary out of context paint the picture, that's up to you. Joyner on Cobb on an island? Lord I hope not.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>OK, we will see.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Washington was an outlier IMHO. Rams were outcoached and never adjusted during the game. I have yet to see that failure again since so, for me, I think they have adjusted. They are giving up 17 PPG against their D? Something like that. Maybe that's without the Skins game. Can't remember. I'll look.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, we haven't. And I hate that it's now and not mid-season. They are still settling in and getting players back.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>All stats lacking the eyeball test. Almost no one is punting to TA. He has 5 returns this season and 2 games with zero. The returns he does have after the opening game are mostly bouncing balls. He is averaging 25 yards per return. I hope GB punts to him, we need it.</p><p></p><p>I stand corrected. It was Johnson but he didn't fumble, he was stripped. One is a mistake, the other is created through skill and effort.</p><p></p><p>I agree, Zuerlein hasn't been great for a few patches of his career. However, he's the best long ball kicker you may ever see. If you go to the game, don't miss him in warmups. You'll see kicks you probably didn't think were possible. I have no doubt he will break the longest FG record in his career. Like I said, he practises from the 65 and nails them. He has also nailed 75 yards many times. Also, this season, he hasn't missed any FGs.</p><p></p><p>Hekker, all things considered, is the most valuable punter in the NFL. He is a great punter, but he is also more than just a punter.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is cherry picking with no context. TA has rarely had a starting caliber QB. He also had an OC who just wouldn't give him the ball. Since the change of QB and OC, he's exploding. No one wants to count the yards gained from the short punts, but they change the field position game. He has 6 receptions for 96 yards and 2 TDs. He has 10 rushes for 77 yards and a TD. His average PR this season is 25 yards and 1 TD.</p><p></p><p>TA's biggest value to the Rams aren't just his yards per touch and scores, but that he distracts defenses. You can key on him and slow him, but it will take assets and the Rams will use it against you. The 52 yard Run by Gurley was a fake end around by TA. These won't show in the stats sheet, but they will in the game.</p><p></p><p>Gurley has one start. I will not anoint him anything yet. According to college fans who followed his career, he isn't near full speed yet. But DAMN he looked good the second half.</p><p></p><p>Mason and Cunningham have had struggles. Mason was out injured and played injured. Cunningham is a better receiving back and a short yardage bowling ball. If you look at last season you will get a better picture. are they scary behind a new o line and two rookies? Nope. But they can be good when the line gels.</p><p></p><p>Your beliefs about the WRs and Foles are yours. Have at them. I can't back up what I know with stats yet, but if Quick is 100% and starts opposite Britt with TA, Gurley, and Bailey on the field, I suspect you will be singing a different tune after the game. We haven't even seen what this crew can do together yet and we may not this week either.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The proof is forthcoming. Choose your poison. IF you can stop Donald, and that's far from assured, Quinn and Long will just eat a bigger meal. Of course, if GB can stop them, then good on you, I don't see it. If they fail, it will be Rodgers IMHO, not your o line.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The Rams allowed 2 offensive TDs between Seattle, Pittsburgh, and Arizona. Two. That's pretty good, yes?</p><p></p><p>Washington was a nightmare but the rest of the games speak for themselves.</p><p></p><p>Rams create TOs, they don't wait for them. They put their helmets on balls. They pull the balls out. They knock a guy senseless so he coughs it up. We aren't counting on Rodgers, we're counting on the Rams defense.</p><p></p><p>"Overall, the Rams are a talented team with an exceptional defensive line and mostly average players at all other positions."</p><p></p><p>I hear that every week. And every week fans come back and tell me they were mistaken. Rams are deep in offensive talent and it's not even all on the field yet. I get it, stats don't agree, W/L doesn't agree, but this isn't last season's offense. If you think Foles, Austin, Jenkins, and Gurley are average, you may have an unrealistic standard.<img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/whistling.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":whistling:" title="Whistling :whistling:" data-shortname=":whistling:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brian Demarest, post: 627069, member: 11210"] Tree was a league leading LB in tackles. His speed will be missed. Joyner has struggled. If you think the stats of the secondary out of context paint the picture, that's up to you. Joyner on Cobb on an island? Lord I hope not. OK, we will see. Washington was an outlier IMHO. Rams were outcoached and never adjusted during the game. I have yet to see that failure again since so, for me, I think they have adjusted. They are giving up 17 PPG against their D? Something like that. Maybe that's without the Skins game. Can't remember. I'll look. No, we haven't. And I hate that it's now and not mid-season. They are still settling in and getting players back. All stats lacking the eyeball test. Almost no one is punting to TA. He has 5 returns this season and 2 games with zero. The returns he does have after the opening game are mostly bouncing balls. He is averaging 25 yards per return. I hope GB punts to him, we need it. I stand corrected. It was Johnson but he didn't fumble, he was stripped. One is a mistake, the other is created through skill and effort. I agree, Zuerlein hasn't been great for a few patches of his career. However, he's the best long ball kicker you may ever see. If you go to the game, don't miss him in warmups. You'll see kicks you probably didn't think were possible. I have no doubt he will break the longest FG record in his career. Like I said, he practises from the 65 and nails them. He has also nailed 75 yards many times. Also, this season, he hasn't missed any FGs. Hekker, all things considered, is the most valuable punter in the NFL. He is a great punter, but he is also more than just a punter. This is cherry picking with no context. TA has rarely had a starting caliber QB. He also had an OC who just wouldn't give him the ball. Since the change of QB and OC, he's exploding. No one wants to count the yards gained from the short punts, but they change the field position game. He has 6 receptions for 96 yards and 2 TDs. He has 10 rushes for 77 yards and a TD. His average PR this season is 25 yards and 1 TD. TA's biggest value to the Rams aren't just his yards per touch and scores, but that he distracts defenses. You can key on him and slow him, but it will take assets and the Rams will use it against you. The 52 yard Run by Gurley was a fake end around by TA. These won't show in the stats sheet, but they will in the game. Gurley has one start. I will not anoint him anything yet. According to college fans who followed his career, he isn't near full speed yet. But DAMN he looked good the second half. Mason and Cunningham have had struggles. Mason was out injured and played injured. Cunningham is a better receiving back and a short yardage bowling ball. If you look at last season you will get a better picture. are they scary behind a new o line and two rookies? Nope. But they can be good when the line gels. Your beliefs about the WRs and Foles are yours. Have at them. I can't back up what I know with stats yet, but if Quick is 100% and starts opposite Britt with TA, Gurley, and Bailey on the field, I suspect you will be singing a different tune after the game. We haven't even seen what this crew can do together yet and we may not this week either. The proof is forthcoming. Choose your poison. IF you can stop Donald, and that's far from assured, Quinn and Long will just eat a bigger meal. Of course, if GB can stop them, then good on you, I don't see it. If they fail, it will be Rodgers IMHO, not your o line. The Rams allowed 2 offensive TDs between Seattle, Pittsburgh, and Arizona. Two. That's pretty good, yes? Washington was a nightmare but the rest of the games speak for themselves. Rams create TOs, they don't wait for them. They put their helmets on balls. They pull the balls out. They knock a guy senseless so he coughs it up. We aren't counting on Rodgers, we're counting on the Rams defense. "Overall, the Rams are a talented team with an exceptional defensive line and mostly average players at all other positions." I hear that every week. And every week fans come back and tell me they were mistaken. Rams are deep in offensive talent and it's not even all on the field yet. I get it, stats don't agree, W/L doesn't agree, but this isn't last season's offense. If you think Foles, Austin, Jenkins, and Gurley are average, you may have an unrealistic standard.:whistling: [/QUOTE]
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