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<blockquote data-quote="longtimefan" data-source="post: 125127" data-attributes="member: 145"><p>long article on jsonline..it details EVERYTHING....</p><p></p><p>The Vikings, it turns out, could hold the Packers' playoff hopes in their hands.</p><p></p><p>Provided the Packers beat the Chicago Bears on Sunday at Soldier Field and finish the regular season at 8-8, they'll need some help to earn the sixth and final playoff berth in the NFC. </p><p></p><p>It's not the only help they'll need, <strong>but if the 6-9 Vikings don't beat the 7-8 St. Louis Rams Saturday at the Metrodome, the Packers' chances of making the playoffs will be pretty slim.</strong></p><p></p><p>The Packers remained in the hunt for another week after the New Orleans Saints beat the New York Giants, 30-7, Sunday at the Meadowlands. Had the Giants defeated the Saints, the Packers would have been eliminated thanks to their unfavorable position with regard to tie-breakers.</p><p></p><p><strong>If the playoffs began today, the Philadelphia Eagles and Giants would be the two wild-card teams. But if the Giants and Rams both lose next weekend, and the Packers win, the Packers are in.</strong></p><p></p><p>With two games tonight and a full-slate next weekend, the Packers are alive along with the NFC's four other 7-8 teams: New York, Atlanta, Carolina and St. Louis. Ahead of them is 8-6 Philadelphia, which plays tonight at Dallas and is positioned well to qualify for the playoffs either as the top wild-card or the NFC East champion.</p><p></p><p>Only two teams, the Bears (13-2) and the Saints (10-5), have clinched division titles in the NFC. The Bears have clinched home-field advantage throughout the playoffs and the Saints are still alive for a first-round bye.</p><p></p><p>The Packers finish the season against a Bears team that played its starters most of the game Sunday in a 26-21 victory at Detroit, but might choose to rest them a half or more against the Packers. Regardless, the Packers will have to be sharp to beat a team that trounced them, 26-0, in opening week at Lambeau Field.</p><p></p><p>If the Packers win, then their playoff destiny will probably be determined through a tie-breaker. Here's a look at where they stand in relation to ties with one or more teams:</p><p></p><p>Two-team tie-breaker: To make the playoffs, the Packers can't finish in a tie with Philadelphia (8-6) or St. Louis (7-8). Both of those teams beat them head-to-head and would win out based on that tie-breaker.</p><p></p><p>The Packers would win tie-breakers with Carolina and Atlanta based on a better conference record.</p><p></p><p>The Vikings can do the Packers a big favor by beating the Rams, who are Green Bay's major competition for the last wild-card spot. A loss would eliminate the Rams based on overall record and free the Packers of a team that could beat them out in both two-team and multiple-team ties.</p><p></p><p>It would be in the Packers' best interests not to finish in a tie with the Giants because it would take a series of fortuitous outcomes the final weekend for them to win a tie-breaker. Because the two teams have not played head-to-head, would have the same conference records (7-5) and would have the same record against common opponents (1-4), it would come down to strength of victory (the combined record of the opponents a team has beaten).</p><p></p><p>New York has a considerable lead in that department but a victory over the Bears would greatly enhance Green Bay's numbers. There are a few scenarios in which Green Bay can overcome the Giants, but it will take some luck.</p><p></p><p>Basically, the Packers will be cheering for the Miami Dolphins to win tonight against the New York Jets and Sunday against Indianapolis. Then if the Giants beat Washington, the Packers would also want Detroit to beat Dallas, Seattle to beat Tampa Bay, Cleveland to beat Houston, Carolina to beat New Orleans, San Francisco to beat Denver and, of course, the Vikings to beat the Rams.</p><p></p><p>The Packers wouldn't necessarily need all those outcomes to occur, but a good number of them would be necessary in overcoming their deficit in strength of victory.</p><p></p><p>Three-way tie: The Packers can actually overcome a head-to-head deficit with St. Louis this way.</p><p></p><p>If the Packers tied with the Rams and Atlanta or Carolina they would win a tie-breaker based on a superior conference record over the other two. Were they to tie with the Giants and any of the other three teams, they would wind up in the strength of victory tie-breaker with New York for the final spot.</p><p></p><p>The others would be eliminated because the Packers and Giants have a superior conference record at 7-5.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="longtimefan, post: 125127, member: 145"] long article on jsonline..it details EVERYTHING.... The Vikings, it turns out, could hold the Packers' playoff hopes in their hands. Provided the Packers beat the Chicago Bears on Sunday at Soldier Field and finish the regular season at 8-8, they'll need some help to earn the sixth and final playoff berth in the NFC. It's not the only help they'll need, [b]but if the 6-9 Vikings don't beat the 7-8 St. Louis Rams Saturday at the Metrodome, the Packers' chances of making the playoffs will be pretty slim.[/b] The Packers remained in the hunt for another week after the New Orleans Saints beat the New York Giants, 30-7, Sunday at the Meadowlands. Had the Giants defeated the Saints, the Packers would have been eliminated thanks to their unfavorable position with regard to tie-breakers. [b]If the playoffs began today, the Philadelphia Eagles and Giants would be the two wild-card teams. But if the Giants and Rams both lose next weekend, and the Packers win, the Packers are in.[/b] With two games tonight and a full-slate next weekend, the Packers are alive along with the NFC's four other 7-8 teams: New York, Atlanta, Carolina and St. Louis. Ahead of them is 8-6 Philadelphia, which plays tonight at Dallas and is positioned well to qualify for the playoffs either as the top wild-card or the NFC East champion. Only two teams, the Bears (13-2) and the Saints (10-5), have clinched division titles in the NFC. The Bears have clinched home-field advantage throughout the playoffs and the Saints are still alive for a first-round bye. The Packers finish the season against a Bears team that played its starters most of the game Sunday in a 26-21 victory at Detroit, but might choose to rest them a half or more against the Packers. Regardless, the Packers will have to be sharp to beat a team that trounced them, 26-0, in opening week at Lambeau Field. If the Packers win, then their playoff destiny will probably be determined through a tie-breaker. Here's a look at where they stand in relation to ties with one or more teams: Two-team tie-breaker: To make the playoffs, the Packers can't finish in a tie with Philadelphia (8-6) or St. Louis (7-8). Both of those teams beat them head-to-head and would win out based on that tie-breaker. The Packers would win tie-breakers with Carolina and Atlanta based on a better conference record. The Vikings can do the Packers a big favor by beating the Rams, who are Green Bay's major competition for the last wild-card spot. A loss would eliminate the Rams based on overall record and free the Packers of a team that could beat them out in both two-team and multiple-team ties. It would be in the Packers' best interests not to finish in a tie with the Giants because it would take a series of fortuitous outcomes the final weekend for them to win a tie-breaker. Because the two teams have not played head-to-head, would have the same conference records (7-5) and would have the same record against common opponents (1-4), it would come down to strength of victory (the combined record of the opponents a team has beaten). New York has a considerable lead in that department but a victory over the Bears would greatly enhance Green Bay's numbers. There are a few scenarios in which Green Bay can overcome the Giants, but it will take some luck. Basically, the Packers will be cheering for the Miami Dolphins to win tonight against the New York Jets and Sunday against Indianapolis. Then if the Giants beat Washington, the Packers would also want Detroit to beat Dallas, Seattle to beat Tampa Bay, Cleveland to beat Houston, Carolina to beat New Orleans, San Francisco to beat Denver and, of course, the Vikings to beat the Rams. The Packers wouldn't necessarily need all those outcomes to occur, but a good number of them would be necessary in overcoming their deficit in strength of victory. Three-way tie: The Packers can actually overcome a head-to-head deficit with St. Louis this way. If the Packers tied with the Rams and Atlanta or Carolina they would win a tie-breaker based on a superior conference record over the other two. Were they to tie with the Giants and any of the other three teams, they would wind up in the strength of victory tie-breaker with New York for the final spot. The others would be eliminated because the Packers and Giants have a superior conference record at 7-5. [/QUOTE]
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