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<blockquote data-quote="tynimiller" data-source="post: 1013725" data-attributes="member: 6578"><p>So regardless of what players are available you're saying stay and pick - no matter? </p><p></p><p>I see it very differently, and it is all not just what your board says number wise for guys, but your grades on them. I've always held quite firm that regardless of where you are in the draft IF you don't have a player grade on your board that sniffs where you are, and you get a pick package in a trade call that puts you back in a range where the value now connects with the board it is the professional and wise thing to at minimum consider it. </p><p></p><p>Example...let's say we stay where we are now at 6th. Now, arguably the list of knock out BLUE chip level day 1 starters include the list below...now this is no doubters, I personally would add a couple potentially...but these are what many will as they say "lock in": </p><p><strong>QBs</strong></p><p>Drake Maye Caleb Williams</p><p><strong>WRs</strong></p><p>Marvin Harrison Jr.</p><p><strong>TEs</strong></p><p>Brock Bowers</p><p><strong>OLs</strong></p><p>Olumuyiwa Fashanu</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>EDGEs</strong></p><p>Verse and Turner...maybe....but it is more positional value that make them considered this high.</p><p><strong>CBs</strong></p><p>Kool-Aid or Dejean or Wiggins</p><p></p><p>Let's say in some fashion MHjr, Williams, Maye and Olu go in top four. At 5 let's say that team takes either Bowers or one of the Edges or perhaps a CB due to their value...</p><p></p><p>So there we sit at 6, there is possibly not close to a Blue Chip level type guy on our board (let's say a guy with a grade higher than 90.0 if we use such a grading system). </p><p></p><p>But...the phone rings.....Jets looking to shore up their protection along the line really like Joe Alt and want to make something happen...they offer their 12th pick, 109th and a next year 1st or they'd do their 12th, 78th, and both their 2nd and 3rd next year for our 6th and a next year 5th of ours.</p><p></p><p>Now we don't have anyone graded high enough, but if that is the only offer we get may make sense to trust our board overall and draft a guy that might just be our answer to the future post-Preston or shore up CB room with Jaire not playing best now, Stokes injured and Rasul gone because both those positions are of MASSIVE value.</p><p></p><p>Now what if a second call comes in and it is say the Titans...they really want Alt as well for their Levis future or maybe they really like Nabers or Coleman...they will send their 8th pick, 39th pick for our 6th and 79th. Essentially they move up two, we stay top ten and turn our 79th pick into a high second rounder.</p><p></p><p>If I'm Gute as much as I would love to build up the massive equity of the Jets pick and potentially move around more or have that reserve fund for a failed Love 2024 experiment...the Titans swap makes a ton of sense especially if my board is still as strong at 8 likely as it is at 6 without a massive blue chipper and I have say a cluster of three or four guys you'd be willing to spend at 6, well two of those guys are still likely there at 8.</p><p></p><p>I try not to lock in on one mindset too much because I don't think that's the appropriate way of handling it as a GM - I know of course that's just my thoughts however. I mean shoot last time we picked that high-ish we picked a guy EVERYONE loves to dog as dog doodoo in AJ Hawk....just a guy that shored up and started at ILB for years for us. Nothing is guaranteed even in the top 10 or top 5 for that matter.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tynimiller, post: 1013725, member: 6578"] So regardless of what players are available you're saying stay and pick - no matter? I see it very differently, and it is all not just what your board says number wise for guys, but your grades on them. I've always held quite firm that regardless of where you are in the draft IF you don't have a player grade on your board that sniffs where you are, and you get a pick package in a trade call that puts you back in a range where the value now connects with the board it is the professional and wise thing to at minimum consider it. Example...let's say we stay where we are now at 6th. Now, arguably the list of knock out BLUE chip level day 1 starters include the list below...now this is no doubters, I personally would add a couple potentially...but these are what many will as they say "lock in": [B]QBs[/B] Drake Maye Caleb Williams [B]WRs[/B] Marvin Harrison Jr. [B]TEs[/B] Brock Bowers [B]OLs[/B] Olumuyiwa Fashanu [B]EDGEs[/B] Verse and Turner...maybe....but it is more positional value that make them considered this high. [B]CBs[/B] Kool-Aid or Dejean or Wiggins Let's say in some fashion MHjr, Williams, Maye and Olu go in top four. At 5 let's say that team takes either Bowers or one of the Edges or perhaps a CB due to their value... So there we sit at 6, there is possibly not close to a Blue Chip level type guy on our board (let's say a guy with a grade higher than 90.0 if we use such a grading system). But...the phone rings.....Jets looking to shore up their protection along the line really like Joe Alt and want to make something happen...they offer their 12th pick, 109th and a next year 1st or they'd do their 12th, 78th, and both their 2nd and 3rd next year for our 6th and a next year 5th of ours. Now we don't have anyone graded high enough, but if that is the only offer we get may make sense to trust our board overall and draft a guy that might just be our answer to the future post-Preston or shore up CB room with Jaire not playing best now, Stokes injured and Rasul gone because both those positions are of MASSIVE value. Now what if a second call comes in and it is say the Titans...they really want Alt as well for their Levis future or maybe they really like Nabers or Coleman...they will send their 8th pick, 39th pick for our 6th and 79th. Essentially they move up two, we stay top ten and turn our 79th pick into a high second rounder. If I'm Gute as much as I would love to build up the massive equity of the Jets pick and potentially move around more or have that reserve fund for a failed Love 2024 experiment...the Titans swap makes a ton of sense especially if my board is still as strong at 8 likely as it is at 6 without a massive blue chipper and I have say a cluster of three or four guys you'd be willing to spend at 6, well two of those guys are still likely there at 8. I try not to lock in on one mindset too much because I don't think that's the appropriate way of handling it as a GM - I know of course that's just my thoughts however. I mean shoot last time we picked that high-ish we picked a guy EVERYONE loves to dog as dog doodoo in AJ Hawk....just a guy that shored up and started at ILB for years for us. Nothing is guaranteed even in the top 10 or top 5 for that matter. [/QUOTE]
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