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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ivo610" data-source="post: 480319" data-attributes="member: 2128">Matt Ryan? Well that 5 int game didnt help. That and Rodgers has better stats almost across the board. The whole argument of luck being MVP or ap bc the team people assume would struggle without them is more about the GM. The colts left nothing at back up QB and they paid for it. So if they would of had a mediocre QB instead last year and won a few more games it would change the view on what luck has done?The Vikings without AP would have won maybe 2 less games. Harvin is more important to their offense, and that team is built to run. Great o line and great fullback. Toby would have had a good season if AP wasnt there. Can't take the MVP literally, you have to look at it as the best player in the league,</blockquote>

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