1. Welcome to Green Bay Packers NFL Football Forum & Community!

    Packer Forum is one of the largest online communities for the Green Bay Packers. You are currently viewing our community forums as a guest user.

    Sign Up or

    Having an account grants you additional privileges, such as creating and participating in discussions. Furthermore, we hide most of the ads once you register as a member!
    Dismiss Notice

Moss, Capers out of race for Raiders HC Job

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by Southpaw, Jan 24, 2012.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Southpaw

    Southpaw Endorphin Junkie

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2011
    Messages:
    1,164
    Ratings:
    +422
  2. Dan115

    Dan115 Guest

    Ratings:
    +0
  3. Bogart

    Bogart Duke Mantee

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2011
    Messages:
    2,551
    Ratings:
    +871
    A part of me wants Capers to leave, and a part of me wants him to stay.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  4. Dan115

    Dan115 Guest

    Ratings:
    +0

    Ted is going bring in some players for Capers.
     
  5. 7thFloorRA

    7thFloorRA Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2011
    Messages:
    2,266
    Ratings:
    +1,075
    Now that there is no DC in Miami is Moss headed there?
     
  6. FrankRizzo

    FrankRizzo Cheesehead

    Joined:
    May 2, 2010
    Messages:
    5,889
    Ratings:
    +1,679
    Is there a DC in Oakland and Denver?
    Why would anyone on our defensive staff be up for a promotion anywhere?
    Someone out there likes the way our defense was historically horse**** this year?
     
  7. Jariah

    Jariah Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2012
    Messages:
    105
    Ratings:
    +19
    I kinda want Capers to leave...totally disappointed this season.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  8. MiamiBeachPacker

    MiamiBeachPacker Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2011
    Messages:
    701
    Ratings:
    +282
    I want Capers to stick around and show that he can fix the issues if he is given the players he needs
     
    • Like Like x 2
  9. ivo610

    ivo610 Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2010
    Messages:
    16,590
    Ratings:
    +4,274
    Its an unspoken rule in the NFL you dont raid from home. Its a good way to get blackballed in the league
     
    • Like Like x 1
  10. Kitten

    Kitten Feline Cheesehead Staff Member Super Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2010
    Messages:
    5,112
    Ratings:
    +1,442
    I don't want Capers going anywhere. What happened with the D this year was not his fault. Capers has done well by us, how short are our memories? Just a year ago we were ready to bow down and kiss his feet. I guess winning a Superbowl does funny stuff to our heads.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  11. Bogart

    Bogart Duke Mantee

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2011
    Messages:
    2,551
    Ratings:
    +871
    I hate to bring this up in comparision but look at the Patriots defense the last couple weeks.

    Tebow isn't anything, but the Patriots defense looks like an entirely different D since the post season started. They totally destroyed Denver, which isn't hard to do. But the Ravens who pound that ball and rely heavily on the run, they had many negative yardage plays against the Pats defense, and they forced Flacco to pretty much beat them through the air, which we all know he couldn't do.

    There is NO EXCUSE that the Packers rank 32nd in defense and they went into the Giants game with no game plan or change at all. Capers does deserve a bit of the blame. The Patriots ranked 31st in defense, and some can argue they are worse than the Packers, but their defense came out swinging in the post season. Don't blame it on "rust" or having too much time off, Capers went into that Giants game with no game plan. This defense did have a few games where they looked great (MNF Vikings game) which tells you that they could have come up with a game plan. Going into the Giants game, the defense looked as lost and confused as they have all year. The Pats on the other hand, whom I hate giving credit to, they made some big changes in their schemes on defense and it made the best for them.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  12. Jules

    Jules The Colts Fan

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2011
    Messages:
    2,769
    Ratings:
    +754
    I do admit, the Pats D has stepped it up. Still not 100% sold on that unit but they can be scrappy and well coached despite a lack of talent.

    I think it's about matchups. The Packers opened with a tough game and the potential SB winner for this season. The Giants got healthy and hot at the right time and are a heck of a lot better then the freaking Broncos on both sides of the ball.

    There is a reason we were all rooting for Falcons/Cowboys near the end.

    Still like you said no excuse, the game plan was pathetic and the Packers looked uninspired compared to the Giants. But, then again maybe it just wasn't their year again as painful as it is to admit.

    Get some pass rush help and all might be fine again......?

    Watching the Niners D I am not even sure the Pack beat them if they had played that inspired vs. the Packers offense.

    Packers need some help on D and more physicality as a team overall.


    BTW Flacco kinda did beat the Pats in the air. A guy didn't handle the game winning TD pass properly.
     
  13. Lunchboxer

    Lunchboxer Guest

    Ratings:
    +76
    [​IMG]

    NOOOO!! The D will continue to suck bad :cry:
     
  14. Southpaw

    Southpaw Endorphin Junkie

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2011
    Messages:
    1,164
    Ratings:
    +422
    Comparing the Patriots defense to ours is like comparing apples and oranges.

    First of all, the Patriots are solid in the trenches. They have a solid defensive front unlike us. When you have a solid defensive line that can generate some pressure everybody behind the line plays better/has an easier time playing.


    Belichick is probably a better defensive mind than Capers. He's probably the best coach at making half-time adjustments. Good luck finding a coach anywhere available or unavailable that can get a defense to play with as many no-name players as he can.

    Capers probably isn't a guy that can do that. But that doesn't mean we give him the boot. Capers has been able to compensate for yards given up and our lack of pass rush by using schemes and trap coverages to create turnovers. I think deserves a little credit there.

    We lost 2 very key players on our defense this season and that needs to be taken into account when talking about this.
     
  15. bubblercheez37

    bubblercheez37 Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2012
    Messages:
    45
    Ratings:
    +8

    Yeah I totally agree. If we want to put blame on anyone because of the D's performance I would have to go with Thompson. Don't get me wrong, I think Thompson has done wonders, but he dropped the ball when it came to resigning Jenkins and picking up a solid DE or OLB in the first 3 rounds of the 2011 draft. If Capers had even a smigin of a pash rush, we wouldn't of had the problems we did. That is why I don't put alot of stock of people saying Tramon Williams and Sam Shields need to get out of town. Any secondary would have gotten demolished with the pass rush we were displaying
     
  16. realcaliforniacheese

    realcaliforniacheese A-Rods Boss

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2011
    Messages:
    2,277
    Ratings:
    +966
    With the offense looking pretty solid, even with his BAP philosophy, with about 12 picks we should have TT should be able to trade around and maybe up. Get a couple of impact players for the D and build in some depth. we may even get lucky and get a 3rd round pick for Jenkins, which would be really good trade currency. Who knows, I can't wait for April, we will know alot more about Nick by then, FA will be going, get the draft, Flynn. Gonna be a long 3 months. I still have a lot of hope for the 1st and 2nd year guys coming out of this off season with a big jump in quality of play.
     
  17. 13 Times Champs

    13 Times Champs Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2011
    Messages:
    3,924
    Ratings:
    +1,379
    Can't imagine other teams would give much attention to a guy who coached a defense to 32.
     
  18. longtimefan

    longtimefan Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2005
    Messages:
    17,843
    Ratings:
    +3,486
    Since they hired a coach, locking this thrad
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page