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<blockquote data-quote="Raptorman" data-source="post: 268932" data-attributes="member: 655"><p>A couple of things. First let's deal with the "Didn't win the last game". The 1930-31 Packers did not win their last games, so I guess we need to take those two championships away.<em> Any other interpretation is sheer rationalization.</em> Second, the first 4 Super Bowls where not he NFL Championships. They were games played between two different leagues. Saying the the 1968 Jets were NFL Champions because they won the Super bowl would be like claiming Ohio State was the Pac 10 Champion for beating USC in the Rose Bowl. How separate were the leagues? Any player that played only in the AFL prior to the merger, and played no game after the merger is not eligible for the HOF. So, you can have a player with a Super Bowl ring from Super Bowls 3 and 4, yet, unless he played after the merger he would not be able to get in the HOF. Why? Because he was not in the NFL.</p><p> </p><p>Yeah, I know how everyone and their brother thinks it, but you are re-writing history. The NFL is betting on fans being too dumb to want he truth so they run with it because it's easier. What the real history is, is the Packers actually have 14 Championships. But I love how the fans will give up two rightfully acquired titles to make sure no one recognizes the Vikings 1. </p><p> </p><p>FWIW, The Packer first two "World Championship Trophies" should be counted separately from the 12 NFL titles. So the question I have, is which two are Packer fans not counting, the two NFL titles or the two "World Championship Titles"?</p><p> </p><p>I won't argue the point further. I just don't like it when people re-write history to make things easier to sell. And that is what the NFL has done in this case. Sell the first 4 Super Bowl as the NFL Championship. It diminishes the accomplishments of those teams that played in them, those that won and those that lost. </p><p> </p><p>BTW, a side benefit is that in the "true" history, the Cowboy's are 5 time losers in NFL Championship games. 2 to the Packer, 2 to the Steelers and 1 to the Colts.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Raptorman, post: 268932, member: 655"] A couple of things. First let's deal with the "Didn't win the last game". The 1930-31 Packers did not win their last games, so I guess we need to take those two championships away.[I] Any other interpretation is sheer rationalization.[/I] Second, the first 4 Super Bowls where not he NFL Championships. They were games played between two different leagues. Saying the the 1968 Jets were NFL Champions because they won the Super bowl would be like claiming Ohio State was the Pac 10 Champion for beating USC in the Rose Bowl. How separate were the leagues? Any player that played only in the AFL prior to the merger, and played no game after the merger is not eligible for the HOF. So, you can have a player with a Super Bowl ring from Super Bowls 3 and 4, yet, unless he played after the merger he would not be able to get in the HOF. Why? Because he was not in the NFL. Yeah, I know how everyone and their brother thinks it, but you are re-writing history. The NFL is betting on fans being too dumb to want he truth so they run with it because it's easier. What the real history is, is the Packers actually have 14 Championships. But I love how the fans will give up two rightfully acquired titles to make sure no one recognizes the Vikings 1. FWIW, The Packer first two "World Championship Trophies" should be counted separately from the 12 NFL titles. So the question I have, is which two are Packer fans not counting, the two NFL titles or the two "World Championship Titles"? I won't argue the point further. I just don't like it when people re-write history to make things easier to sell. And that is what the NFL has done in this case. Sell the first 4 Super Bowl as the NFL Championship. It diminishes the accomplishments of those teams that played in them, those that won and those that lost. BTW, a side benefit is that in the "true" history, the Cowboy's are 5 time losers in NFL Championship games. 2 to the Packer, 2 to the Steelers and 1 to the Colts. [/QUOTE]
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