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<blockquote data-quote="GreenBlood" data-source="post: 449008" data-attributes="member: 1198"><p><em>"Anyone's definition?" </em>I'm sorry. I had to fix that for you. Unless you are saying that anyone who has the audacity to disagree with you is nobody.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Mitigating factors:</p><p> </p><p>1) Opponents always playing from behind and <strong>never</strong> trying to run out the clock.</p><p> </p><p>2) Brief scoring drives by our offense puts our defense on the field more than most teams.</p><p> </p><p>3) Offense passes the ball 68% of the time. Ever notice how the top defenses in terms of yards allowed tend to have clock-killing run-first offenses? (Steelers, Niners, Texans, Ravens, Jets) Ever notice how the teams that pass the most tend to give up more yards on defense? (Packers, Saints, Patriots, Lions). That's NOT a coincidence.</p><p> </p><p>4) Key starters routinely sitting out most of the 4th quarter after blowing out the other team, including Woodson, Matthews and Raji.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>See above.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Seven teams were worse. BTW, we were one of the best on 4th down.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Yes, that's why I provided you with some context.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>I've been to plenty of games as well. If you think being there makes you a higher authority somehow, you are mistaken. You actually see more on a big fat TV screen than you can see at the game. BTW, do you drink at the games?</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>BINGO! Now you're getting it. The problems our defense had stemmed primarily from a poor pass rush. If you want to say our pass rush was terrible, I would agree with that. But you want over-generalize for some reason.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>And you don't think losing a Pro Bowl safety had anything to do with that? Losing Collins was HUGE factor!</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Au contraire, mon ami. The Bucs were BY FAR the worst defense in the NFL and it's not even close. They gave up about 50 more points than anyone else (almost 150 more than us), had fewer sacks than us, far fewer turnovers, same points per play. I would say another 4-6 were clearly worse than us, all factors considered and another 3 or 4 weren't any better. And I think you'll find I'm not the only one that holds that opinion.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Specifically, pass rush.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Again, he specifically went after pass rushers, because that's where the weakness was.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Not if all the mitigating factors I listed above are still in play. I don't care how good your defense is. When you pass 68% of the time and routinely score very quickly, you're not going to make the top 10 in yards allowed, but you very well might in POINTS allowed.</p><p> </p><p>Anyone have any stats on opponents' points per possession?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GreenBlood, post: 449008, member: 1198"] [I]"Anyone's definition?" [/I]I'm sorry. I had to fix that for you. Unless you are saying that anyone who has the audacity to disagree with you is nobody. Mitigating factors: 1) Opponents always playing from behind and [B]never[/B] trying to run out the clock. 2) Brief scoring drives by our offense puts our defense on the field more than most teams. 3) Offense passes the ball 68% of the time. Ever notice how the top defenses in terms of yards allowed tend to have clock-killing run-first offenses? (Steelers, Niners, Texans, Ravens, Jets) Ever notice how the teams that pass the most tend to give up more yards on defense? (Packers, Saints, Patriots, Lions). That's NOT a coincidence. 4) Key starters routinely sitting out most of the 4th quarter after blowing out the other team, including Woodson, Matthews and Raji. See above. Seven teams were worse. BTW, we were one of the best on 4th down. Yes, that's why I provided you with some context. I've been to plenty of games as well. If you think being there makes you a higher authority somehow, you are mistaken. You actually see more on a big fat TV screen than you can see at the game. BTW, do you drink at the games? BINGO! Now you're getting it. The problems our defense had stemmed primarily from a poor pass rush. If you want to say our pass rush was terrible, I would agree with that. But you want over-generalize for some reason. And you don't think losing a Pro Bowl safety had anything to do with that? Losing Collins was HUGE factor! Au contraire, mon ami. The Bucs were BY FAR the worst defense in the NFL and it's not even close. They gave up about 50 more points than anyone else (almost 150 more than us), had fewer sacks than us, far fewer turnovers, same points per play. I would say another 4-6 were clearly worse than us, all factors considered and another 3 or 4 weren't any better. And I think you'll find I'm not the only one that holds that opinion. Specifically, pass rush. Again, he specifically went after pass rushers, because that's where the weakness was. Not if all the mitigating factors I listed above are still in play. I don't care how good your defense is. When you pass 68% of the time and routinely score very quickly, you're not going to make the top 10 in yards allowed, but you very well might in POINTS allowed. Anyone have any stats on opponents' points per possession? [/QUOTE]
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