Forums
New posts
Search forums
What's new
New posts
New media
New media comments
New resources
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Resources
Latest reviews
Search resources
Members
Current visitors
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
New posts
Search forums
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Forums
Open Football Discussion
Green Bay Packers Fan Forum
Mike Daniels could propel the Packers defense
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="AmishMafia" data-source="post: 448984" data-attributes="member: 2846"><p>This defense was a top 5 defense in 2010. What has changed? We lost Collins and Jenkins. Two really good players. We also had a fraction of Tramon and several other players regressed. We are not that far removed - talent wise - from our top 5 defense of 2010. There was even improvement in 2 spots - Bishop played better in 2011 and at the one safety position with Burnett over Peprah (I know Peprah ended up replacing Collins and playing anyway).</p><p> </p><p>I don't think anyone would disagree that if the Packers want to make some improvements - they should be looking at the defensive side of the ball. Our offense was historically good, our defense was pitiful. Was it the worst in NFL history - as some have purported? Hell no. They weren't the worst defense in the NFC last year.</p><p> </p><p>A couple of things to remember on the positive side:</p><p> </p><p>1. Packers had an amazing offense and teams had to constantly be going for big plays in order to keep up. This put a weekly strain on our defense.</p><p>2. We had a 'big play' offense that did not specialize in ball-control slow methodical drives. Not sure what the stats are but I bet we set a record for average time off the clock on a scoring drive. This of course kept our defense 'in the line of fire' more often than can be normally expected.</p><p>3. Interceptions count for something in the weighing of the defense. That alone should move us off of the bottom of barrel.</p><p>4. The defense's main objective is to stop the other team. Period. Valuing a defense based on points allowed has some merit. Valuing a team <strong>solely</strong> on points or on yards is not being fair either.</p><p> </p><p>I will go on record right here and now and say we will have a very good defense this year. I will predict a top 10 defense (based on points) this season. I think we will have the greatest point differential in the NFL (Points scored - Points given up). Why? I don't think we were ever that far off. I think Tramon back to 100% alone will have a significant boost. The added draft talent on defense will just be icing on the cake.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>BTW: How can you argue it wasn't BPA in the draft? We traded up for #2 and #3. Obviously if they are going to be there at our picks we don't trade up. By the time you hit the 4th round there is probably a dozen players with similar grades, there is bound to be one there that also fits a need.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AmishMafia, post: 448984, member: 2846"] This defense was a top 5 defense in 2010. What has changed? We lost Collins and Jenkins. Two really good players. We also had a fraction of Tramon and several other players regressed. We are not that far removed - talent wise - from our top 5 defense of 2010. There was even improvement in 2 spots - Bishop played better in 2011 and at the one safety position with Burnett over Peprah (I know Peprah ended up replacing Collins and playing anyway). I don't think anyone would disagree that if the Packers want to make some improvements - they should be looking at the defensive side of the ball. Our offense was historically good, our defense was pitiful. Was it the worst in NFL history - as some have purported? Hell no. They weren't the worst defense in the NFC last year. A couple of things to remember on the positive side: 1. Packers had an amazing offense and teams had to constantly be going for big plays in order to keep up. This put a weekly strain on our defense. 2. We had a 'big play' offense that did not specialize in ball-control slow methodical drives. Not sure what the stats are but I bet we set a record for average time off the clock on a scoring drive. This of course kept our defense 'in the line of fire' more often than can be normally expected. 3. Interceptions count for something in the weighing of the defense. That alone should move us off of the bottom of barrel. 4. The defense's main objective is to stop the other team. Period. Valuing a defense based on points allowed has some merit. Valuing a team [B]solely[/B] on points or on yards is not being fair either. I will go on record right here and now and say we will have a very good defense this year. I will predict a top 10 defense (based on points) this season. I think we will have the greatest point differential in the NFL (Points scored - Points given up). Why? I don't think we were ever that far off. I think Tramon back to 100% alone will have a significant boost. The added draft talent on defense will just be icing on the cake. BTW: How can you argue it wasn't BPA in the draft? We traded up for #2 and #3. Obviously if they are going to be there at our picks we don't trade up. By the time you hit the 4th round there is probably a dozen players with similar grades, there is bound to be one there that also fits a need. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Members online
Dukefan12
mradtke66
Sanguine camper
Latest posts
M
Not too soon 2024 roster prediction
Latest: mradtke66
10 minutes ago
Green Bay Packers Fan Forum
2024 2nd Rd pick #58 Javon Bullard S
Latest: Sanguine camper
16 minutes ago
Green Bay Packers Fan Forum
S
The 11th Annual Amish Draft Contest 2024
Latest: Schultz
17 minutes ago
Draft Talk
G
I had This Nightmare
Latest: GleefulGary
22 minutes ago
Green Bay Packers Fan Forum
2024 Packer UDFA Tracker....
Latest: PikeBadger
36 minutes ago
Green Bay Packers Fan Forum
Forums
Open Football Discussion
Green Bay Packers Fan Forum
Mike Daniels could propel the Packers defense
This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
Accept
Learn more…
Top