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<blockquote data-quote="TJV" data-source="post: 574257" data-attributes="member: 4300"><p>IMO it’s a tough choice partly because McCarthy isn’t done yet. Holmgren had better assistant coaches, better defenses and a more flexible GM. McCarthy had to overcome more obstacles than Holmgren to win a title.</p><p></p><p>An important part of this discussion revolves around the QBs. Some may believe each HC lucked into their HOF QBs but I don’t think that’s true. Holmgren did more than just (somewhat) control Favre. He (and staff) taught him the game. For example, in his second season in Green Bay while watching tape, Favre asked Ty Detmer what the coaches meant when they talked about the nickel defense. <a href="http://espn.go.com/chrismortensen/s/2001/1018/1265996.html" target="_blank">http://espn.go.com/chrismortensen/s/2001/1018/1265996.html</a> I don’t think Wolf was lucky in getting Favre and IMO Holmgren can only be said to be lucky in the “raw materials” his GM handed him at QB. And Holmgren molded that material. Favre was extremely fortunate his junior season in college caught Wolf’s eye. Had it not, he very well could have remained the circus act he was pregame for Glanville his rookie season, perhaps never getting a chance in the league.</p><p></p><p>Some may not remember how bad Rodgers looked upon his arrival in Green Bay and I think it was more than just his delivery. McCarthy’s QB school benefited Rodgers greatly. McCarthy molded Rodgers and again was lucky in my view only to the extent of the raw materials – including a much more disciplined mind than Favre – handed to him. I view Rodgers’ acquisition as a product of Thompson’s disciplined approach to the draft. Some may believe the Packers were lucky he was available but that can be said of every pick in the draft except for the first overall pick. And if that’s your view, you could also say Wolf was lucky no one else expressed interest in Favre when he traded for him, or lucky Glanville didn’t recognize the potential of the raw material he showed off before games. Or Wolf was lucky the Jets couldn’t trade up for Favre in the ’91 draft (Wolf was director of player personnel for them then and desperately wanted Favre) and then smart enough to keep him.</p><p></p><p>IMO both HCs should get tons of credit for the players their HOF QBs turned out to be.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TJV, post: 574257, member: 4300"] IMO it’s a tough choice partly because McCarthy isn’t done yet. Holmgren had better assistant coaches, better defenses and a more flexible GM. McCarthy had to overcome more obstacles than Holmgren to win a title. An important part of this discussion revolves around the QBs. Some may believe each HC lucked into their HOF QBs but I don’t think that’s true. Holmgren did more than just (somewhat) control Favre. He (and staff) taught him the game. For example, in his second season in Green Bay while watching tape, Favre asked Ty Detmer what the coaches meant when they talked about the nickel defense. [url]http://espn.go.com/chrismortensen/s/2001/1018/1265996.html[/url] I don’t think Wolf was lucky in getting Favre and IMO Holmgren can only be said to be lucky in the “raw materials” his GM handed him at QB. And Holmgren molded that material. Favre was extremely fortunate his junior season in college caught Wolf’s eye. Had it not, he very well could have remained the circus act he was pregame for Glanville his rookie season, perhaps never getting a chance in the league. Some may not remember how bad Rodgers looked upon his arrival in Green Bay and I think it was more than just his delivery. McCarthy’s QB school benefited Rodgers greatly. McCarthy molded Rodgers and again was lucky in my view only to the extent of the raw materials – including a much more disciplined mind than Favre – handed to him. I view Rodgers’ acquisition as a product of Thompson’s disciplined approach to the draft. Some may believe the Packers were lucky he was available but that can be said of every pick in the draft except for the first overall pick. And if that’s your view, you could also say Wolf was lucky no one else expressed interest in Favre when he traded for him, or lucky Glanville didn’t recognize the potential of the raw material he showed off before games. Or Wolf was lucky the Jets couldn’t trade up for Favre in the ’91 draft (Wolf was director of player personnel for them then and desperately wanted Favre) and then smart enough to keep him. IMO both HCs should get tons of credit for the players their HOF QBs turned out to be. [/QUOTE]
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