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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mradtke66" data-source="post: 1091341" data-attributes="member: 4199">Interesting and thanks.My gut check is other than the top 2 or so teams, the number of ST penalties isn't too far out of whack.  We committed about .3 more penalties per game from being in the top 3rd.  Not great, but not horrific.The yards average over 9 yards per, which strongly suggests to me a lot of holding calls, which does line up with our return units being bad.  And is more out of whack that some of the other teams in the league, suggesting a problem.Of course, holding penalties AREN'T normally "discipline" related either.  Players losing sometimes and resulting to holding isn't coaching.  Getting out of position, etc.  could be coaching.Sometimes I hate it when the questions just keep going.</blockquote>

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