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<blockquote data-quote="Mondio" data-source="post: 792637" data-attributes="member: 10441"><p></p></blockquote><p>you really haven't? because everything right now seems to be self induced damage. Those are the easiest things to fix. Nobody has outplayed them. I don't think Detroit is even close to the team that GB is. I know everyone likes to wallow in gloom and doom, but if they just clean up a few things, they're rolling. Penalties need to stop. MM and staff usually do a pretty good job with that. This year it hasn't been so good, not at all. But do you think they're incapable of getting more discipline from their players? if you do, you haven't been paying attention over the years. </p><p></p><p>part of it might be lots of change and having to try and get the offense even partially together by game time with all the key players out much of the week. Spend more time on getting young guys up to speed, than practicing the finer details. I think this will start coming around. Maybe not, but it probably will. I don't think Rodgers is going to keep turning the ball over inside the 10 yard line. We're not going to miss 5 kicks a game every game. etc.</p><p></p><p>I do think this team will get it together and it's not going to take much once they do to look like a complete different team. Even with as bad as it seemed last Sunday, if Brown doesn't do his stupid ****ing stare down after a 3rd down stop I really think this team was coming back to win. but maybe that's just me being hopeful. But a team that has the capability to come back from 20+ points down in a half like this one does, is not a team that hasn't "shown anything to date" on being able to have a winning season. </p><p></p><p>The defense has been up and down, but that's expected. ANyone who thought a new Coordinator was just going to step in and and they'd be playing at Peak were fooling themselves. Maybe by this time in year 3 we'll see what this defense is capable of, but right now they aren't even close to potential. You can't skip the learning phase, which requires mistakes. All things considered, I'd say they're doing pretty well. </p><p></p><p>and on offense, MM and Philbin are not a couple of hacks, they're very smart and will get it figured out. They'll get the matchups they want on the field, they're learning strengths and weaknesses of young players, they're dealing with rotation, but it will all go into the formula that makes this team better in the 2nd half of the season. </p><p></p><p>Just last week, all the things that went wrong. starting with that stupid punt to start. first drive, stop and punt. not a single official thought the ball went of King, yet they called it that way figuring replay could sort it out. and they it didn't. All those missed kicks, not just the missed kicks, but because it gave Detroit great field position and when we stopped them, it allowed them to pin us deep every single time. Just making 1 or 2 of them allows us to kick off and give us a chance at decent field position after a stop. That's huge in a game. Do you guys realize that I think GB was -300 yards in average starting position that game? Thats enormous. That's almost an entire offensive output for a lot of teams, we had to produce just to get to even. </p><p></p><p>This team has work to do, but there have been plenty of signs that this team can be so much more than it has appeared so far in terms of wins and losses.</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="Mondio, post: 792637, member: 10441"] [/QUOTE] you really haven't? because everything right now seems to be self induced damage. Those are the easiest things to fix. Nobody has outplayed them. I don't think Detroit is even close to the team that GB is. I know everyone likes to wallow in gloom and doom, but if they just clean up a few things, they're rolling. Penalties need to stop. MM and staff usually do a pretty good job with that. This year it hasn't been so good, not at all. But do you think they're incapable of getting more discipline from their players? if you do, you haven't been paying attention over the years. part of it might be lots of change and having to try and get the offense even partially together by game time with all the key players out much of the week. Spend more time on getting young guys up to speed, than practicing the finer details. I think this will start coming around. Maybe not, but it probably will. I don't think Rodgers is going to keep turning the ball over inside the 10 yard line. We're not going to miss 5 kicks a game every game. etc. I do think this team will get it together and it's not going to take much once they do to look like a complete different team. Even with as bad as it seemed last Sunday, if Brown doesn't do his stupid ****ing stare down after a 3rd down stop I really think this team was coming back to win. but maybe that's just me being hopeful. But a team that has the capability to come back from 20+ points down in a half like this one does, is not a team that hasn't "shown anything to date" on being able to have a winning season. The defense has been up and down, but that's expected. ANyone who thought a new Coordinator was just going to step in and and they'd be playing at Peak were fooling themselves. Maybe by this time in year 3 we'll see what this defense is capable of, but right now they aren't even close to potential. You can't skip the learning phase, which requires mistakes. All things considered, I'd say they're doing pretty well. and on offense, MM and Philbin are not a couple of hacks, they're very smart and will get it figured out. They'll get the matchups they want on the field, they're learning strengths and weaknesses of young players, they're dealing with rotation, but it will all go into the formula that makes this team better in the 2nd half of the season. Just last week, all the things that went wrong. starting with that stupid punt to start. first drive, stop and punt. not a single official thought the ball went of King, yet they called it that way figuring replay could sort it out. and they it didn't. All those missed kicks, not just the missed kicks, but because it gave Detroit great field position and when we stopped them, it allowed them to pin us deep every single time. Just making 1 or 2 of them allows us to kick off and give us a chance at decent field position after a stop. That's huge in a game. Do you guys realize that I think GB was -300 yards in average starting position that game? Thats enormous. That's almost an entire offensive output for a lot of teams, we had to produce just to get to even. This team has work to do, but there have been plenty of signs that this team can be so much more than it has appeared so far in terms of wins and losses. [/QUOTE]
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