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<blockquote data-quote="Jasonfan" data-source="post: 369196" data-attributes="member: 4647"><p>This is a fun Discussion. Is there anything better than talking Packers? <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/smile.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>It is risky to try speading out against a good D Line because it shortens the edges which makes it easier to get the QB. Yes it is kind of a Chicken/Egg dilemma but there is a tactical reason. </p><p> </p><p>I agree, though, about McCarthy. I wish they would fire him and think he cost us at least 2-3 games last year.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>If you are dismissing the DET game cuz of Rodgers missing part of it then surely one would have to dismiss the Dallas game when GB was playing Keith Jackson at WR since their 3 starting WRs were not available.</p><p> </p><p>Also, I do not think there really is much comparison between a DET team that hasn't made the Playoffs in the last 10+ years vs a Dallas team that had won 3 of the prior 4 Super Bowls when 96 GB played them. That is just a little bit difference in quality.</p><p> </p><p>Even if you remove the DET game there are still many games the Offense struggled.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>The regular season's 16 games are more indicicitive of a team's performance than any 4 game stretch. Especially when you consider that such a hypothetical matchup would take place in Lambeau and not in the friendly Domes they got to play 2 Post Season games in.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>We aren't comparing careers but their ability in 96 vs their ability in 2010.</p><p> </p><p>In 1995, Brooks put up a season of 1,497 yards, 13 tds and in 96 was on pace for essentially 1,000 yards and 11 tds. Jennings still has yet to reach 1,300 yards or 13 tds in any season. </p><p> </p><p>(96 GB's stats are even more impressive when you consider how often they spent the 2nd Half just running out the clock as opposed to trying to score all game long.)</p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>We aren't comparing Base Offenses but the talent and performance of the receivers. 96 used 3 WR's more oftne than you might suspect. For example, look at the highlights vs SD. 3 of Favre's TD's come from a 3 WR set.</p><p> </p><p>As for Post Season stats, you keep quoting them as though they are more important than the wider subset of regular season stats</p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>1996 might do the same. The matchups would get pretty rough. Could you imagine Bush triying to cover Beebe or Rison or Hawk attempting to cover Keith Jackson </p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>You do not count the game a player gets injured in as a full game played. Freeman was hurt in like the 1st or 2nd Quarter. At most it was 11.5</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Williams was awesome in 2010 but you are wrong saying he only allowed 1 TD. Just off the top of my head, I know he gave up an 85 Yard TD to Manningham.</p><p> </p><p>Calling Woodson a HOF while true is misleading in this discussion since it implies Tramon is playing at a HOF level. </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Ed Reed would disagree with you. Polamolu might be neutralized by the spread but not all are.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Philly actually had the 12th Best Passing Offense last year according to Football Outsiders. Using yardage to rank Offenses is equivalent to using Batting Average to determine who the best hitter is.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Actually, CHI did have a special teams advantage in the games played. Football Outsider's actually studied it and I could find you the analysis if you want but are you referring more to Week 17 or NFCCG (since I assume you admit CHI ST dominated Game 1)</p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>This is also incorrect. 2010 GB was not that dominant in the Post Season. They have a 5 Point Win, a 6 Point Win, and a 7 Point Win. 1996 GB on the other hand had a 21 Point Win, a 17 Point Win, and a 14 Point Win.</p><p> </p><p>96's Average Playoff Margin of Win: 17.3</p><p>2010's Average Margin of Win: 11.25</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jasonfan, post: 369196, member: 4647"] This is a fun Discussion. Is there anything better than talking Packers? :) It is risky to try speading out against a good D Line because it shortens the edges which makes it easier to get the QB. Yes it is kind of a Chicken/Egg dilemma but there is a tactical reason. I agree, though, about McCarthy. I wish they would fire him and think he cost us at least 2-3 games last year. If you are dismissing the DET game cuz of Rodgers missing part of it then surely one would have to dismiss the Dallas game when GB was playing Keith Jackson at WR since their 3 starting WRs were not available. Also, I do not think there really is much comparison between a DET team that hasn't made the Playoffs in the last 10+ years vs a Dallas team that had won 3 of the prior 4 Super Bowls when 96 GB played them. That is just a little bit difference in quality. Even if you remove the DET game there are still many games the Offense struggled. The regular season's 16 games are more indicicitive of a team's performance than any 4 game stretch. Especially when you consider that such a hypothetical matchup would take place in Lambeau and not in the friendly Domes they got to play 2 Post Season games in. We aren't comparing careers but their ability in 96 vs their ability in 2010. In 1995, Brooks put up a season of 1,497 yards, 13 tds and in 96 was on pace for essentially 1,000 yards and 11 tds. Jennings still has yet to reach 1,300 yards or 13 tds in any season. (96 GB's stats are even more impressive when you consider how often they spent the 2nd Half just running out the clock as opposed to trying to score all game long.) We aren't comparing Base Offenses but the talent and performance of the receivers. 96 used 3 WR's more oftne than you might suspect. For example, look at the highlights vs SD. 3 of Favre's TD's come from a 3 WR set. As for Post Season stats, you keep quoting them as though they are more important than the wider subset of regular season stats 1996 might do the same. The matchups would get pretty rough. Could you imagine Bush triying to cover Beebe or Rison or Hawk attempting to cover Keith Jackson You do not count the game a player gets injured in as a full game played. Freeman was hurt in like the 1st or 2nd Quarter. At most it was 11.5 Williams was awesome in 2010 but you are wrong saying he only allowed 1 TD. Just off the top of my head, I know he gave up an 85 Yard TD to Manningham. Calling Woodson a HOF while true is misleading in this discussion since it implies Tramon is playing at a HOF level. Ed Reed would disagree with you. Polamolu might be neutralized by the spread but not all are. Philly actually had the 12th Best Passing Offense last year according to Football Outsiders. Using yardage to rank Offenses is equivalent to using Batting Average to determine who the best hitter is. Actually, CHI did have a special teams advantage in the games played. Football Outsider's actually studied it and I could find you the analysis if you want but are you referring more to Week 17 or NFCCG (since I assume you admit CHI ST dominated Game 1) This is also incorrect. 2010 GB was not that dominant in the Post Season. They have a 5 Point Win, a 6 Point Win, and a 7 Point Win. 1996 GB on the other hand had a 21 Point Win, a 17 Point Win, and a 14 Point Win. 96's Average Playoff Margin of Win: 17.3 2010's Average Margin of Win: 11.25 [/QUOTE]
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