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KGB Article

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by Yared-Yam, Dec 7, 2006.

  1. Yared-Yam

    Yared-Yam Cheesehead

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    Why does everyone keep saying he's "solid" against the run. He's one of the worst DE's in the league vs the run.

    KGB should be used as a PASS rusher. He's not an every down guy anymore.
     
  2. DeusNova

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    Agreed.

    He would be best served as a pass rushing specialist.
     
  3. longtimefan

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    quote

    "When they run at me, I don't do that much work, I just stay in position and the play comes at me," Gbaja-Biamila said. "You get tired when you have to chase the play . . . To me running is like a rest opportunity, not that I'm resting.

    "It's a rest mentality in that I'm not exerting as much energy because all I have to do is (rely on) more my strength."

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    I can understand what he is talking about , but LETTING the play come to him?? Is that what he is taught to do, or should he be chasing down the play??


    Someone help me out here....this makes no real sense to me at all...
     
  4. Yared-Yam

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    Gee Kabeer, did you ever think that maybe THAT'S why you get flattened ever single time they run to your side?
     
  5. longtimefan

    longtimefan Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

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    Makes lot of sense to me why Seattle ran 95% of their plays to his side..I think one time was to the left and maybe one or 2 times up the middle.
     
  6. Zero2Cool

    Zero2Cool I own a website

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    Letting the play come to you is what was recommended with Barry Sanders. I'm not sure if any RB we've faced this year poses anywhere near the same threat as he used to.

    With some RB the best way to tackle them is hold your ground and keep yourself ready to shed your block.
     
  7. porky88

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    He's not even that great of a pass rusher any more but I think playing every down has him taken a lot out of him. He's not that big and he goes up against brick walls every game. He gets tired and nobody subs in. I'm not making excuses. I think he's always been awful against the run and will always be awful against the run but I think as a situational pass rusher he can still really contribute. I'd like to see his contract get redone in the off season though. If not then best wishes to him.
     
  8. longtimefan

    longtimefan Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

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    thats what I am wondering zero..Is kgb taught to just stand there , or is he taught something else..

    One would think he is taught that, other wise why make it public..
     
  9. CaliforniaCheez

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    Kabeer is playing smarter than he used to play. Remember when teams would run screen passes his way? Teams used to run a lot of delays and plays his way because he went agressively into the backfield. Teams let him take himself out of the play. I used to be quite irritated when a sweep was run while he was tied up in an inside manuever.

    He is a more complete player now.

    He is the size of a large linebacker. At 6-4 250 lbs., he is close to Poppings's 6-3 245 lbs. His strength is not taking on 320 lbs OT's.

    It is up to the coaching staff to best use his talents and put him into situations designed for his sucess.
     
  10. Greg C.

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    My understanding is that the DE's job on those end runs is just to hold firm and either force the runner too far outside or back to the inside. The DE is rarely going to make the tackle on that play. The LB's or DB's or even DT's are going to have to close the deal.

    Having said that, there are a lot of times when KGB is not able to hold his position on those plays and he gets overpowered, which allows the RB to get near or beyond the line of scrimmage before he's force to commit one way or another, and that usually leads to a successful run.

    I think KGB has been decent against the run for most of the year, but he got consistently blown up in the Seattle game, and it may happen more toward the end of the season as he wears down from going up against bigger guys. Maybe putting Cory Williams into the mix, as McCarthy may do this week, will improve the run defense and keep KGB fresh.
     

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