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<blockquote data-quote="toolkien" data-source="post: 456917" data-attributes="member: 4637"><p>I don't have any alternative, it's just that the HOF doesn't matter as much to me as it might others. With websites such as pro-football-reference one can stack up players against other players over whatever time frame they want. I can see who's good and who's not. The top players of all time rise to the top of whatever one pulls up and a monkey could vote them in. Then there's the second tier guys and some are in and some are out. For example, Dan Fouts is in, and if he's in Ken Anderson should be too. But he's not. And I don't think Cliff Christl, John Clayton, or John McClain have any greater divination powers than I do and who of the second tier should be in and who should be out. It's mostly based on hype and these are the very guys who generate hype. For example Cliff Christl is wound up with Favre that he has no objectivity (of course Favre is a no doubt guy, but the point is still the same). I think a lot of who gets in of the second tier HOFers is tied to these guy's SUBjectivity, not OBjectivity.</p><p> </p><p>So, in other words, having a HOF perhaps was considered necessary before the age of information and guys would slip off into oblivion if there wasn't a HOF. Years ago you got your local team, a national game, and a Monday Night game. Now with Sunday Ticket you can see every game, or parts thereof - and of course the endless highlights on sports stations and the internet. As an example, out of all of the resources, I don't need these sports writers to tell me that Owens or Moss or Harrison will be in, they will be, but I also don't need their opinion over whether Ward, Holt, or Fitzgerald should be in. Their criterion will ultimately come down to a popularity contest that is irrelevant.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="toolkien, post: 456917, member: 4637"] I don't have any alternative, it's just that the HOF doesn't matter as much to me as it might others. With websites such as pro-football-reference one can stack up players against other players over whatever time frame they want. I can see who's good and who's not. The top players of all time rise to the top of whatever one pulls up and a monkey could vote them in. Then there's the second tier guys and some are in and some are out. For example, Dan Fouts is in, and if he's in Ken Anderson should be too. But he's not. And I don't think Cliff Christl, John Clayton, or John McClain have any greater divination powers than I do and who of the second tier should be in and who should be out. It's mostly based on hype and these are the very guys who generate hype. For example Cliff Christl is wound up with Favre that he has no objectivity (of course Favre is a no doubt guy, but the point is still the same). I think a lot of who gets in of the second tier HOFers is tied to these guy's SUBjectivity, not OBjectivity. So, in other words, having a HOF perhaps was considered necessary before the age of information and guys would slip off into oblivion if there wasn't a HOF. Years ago you got your local team, a national game, and a Monday Night game. Now with Sunday Ticket you can see every game, or parts thereof - and of course the endless highlights on sports stations and the internet. As an example, out of all of the resources, I don't need these sports writers to tell me that Owens or Moss or Harrison will be in, they will be, but I also don't need their opinion over whether Ward, Holt, or Fitzgerald should be in. Their criterion will ultimately come down to a popularity contest that is irrelevant. [/QUOTE]
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