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Jerry Kramer for the NFL Hall of Fame
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<blockquote data-quote="gwh11" data-source="post: 566907" data-attributes="member: 4910"><p>It's apparent that a key argument for Kramer hinges upon being named as the top guard on the 50th Anniversary team. It's also apparent that several waves of HOF voters feel no obligation to that list. If many subsequent voters think mistakes were made on that list from 1969, they're not going to compromise their own opinions for the sake of conformity.</p><p></p><p>That list had Unitas as the top QB of all-time, beating out Bart Starr and Sonny Jurgensen, who were the runner-ups. If this list (and those voters at the time) is so authoritative, would someone care to defend the choice of Jurgensen as a runner-up over someone like Otto Graham? Is there a consensus that Cal Hubbard should be the top tackle on that list, and not Forrest Gregg?</p><p></p><p>Personally, I think Kramer should be in, and has the credentials, but Dilweg is just as deserving. He has all the numbers and accolades, and was considered by many as the predominant end of his time. Anyone with a serious interest in Packers history should read Ken Crippen's piece on him:</p><p><a href="http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/content/old-school-the-hall-fame-case-for-packers-great/7801/" target="_blank">http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/content/old-school-the-hall-fame-case-for-packers-great/7801/</a></p><p></p><p>And Kramer isn't the only one who has a child campaigning for HOF consideration either:</p><p><a href="http://www.foxsports.com/wisconsin/story/dilweg-a-name-and-some-statistics-hardly-071312" target="_blank">http://www.foxsports.com/wisconsin/story/dilweg-a-name-and-some-statistics-hardly-071312</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gwh11, post: 566907, member: 4910"] It's apparent that a key argument for Kramer hinges upon being named as the top guard on the 50th Anniversary team. It's also apparent that several waves of HOF voters feel no obligation to that list. If many subsequent voters think mistakes were made on that list from 1969, they're not going to compromise their own opinions for the sake of conformity. That list had Unitas as the top QB of all-time, beating out Bart Starr and Sonny Jurgensen, who were the runner-ups. If this list (and those voters at the time) is so authoritative, would someone care to defend the choice of Jurgensen as a runner-up over someone like Otto Graham? Is there a consensus that Cal Hubbard should be the top tackle on that list, and not Forrest Gregg? Personally, I think Kramer should be in, and has the credentials, but Dilweg is just as deserving. He has all the numbers and accolades, and was considered by many as the predominant end of his time. Anyone with a serious interest in Packers history should read Ken Crippen's piece on him: [url]http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/content/old-school-the-hall-fame-case-for-packers-great/7801/[/url] And Kramer isn't the only one who has a child campaigning for HOF consideration either: [url]http://www.foxsports.com/wisconsin/story/dilweg-a-name-and-some-statistics-hardly-071312[/url] [/QUOTE]
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