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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ivo610" data-source="post: 566860" data-attributes="member: 2128">You said lie, not me.  As a child I would expect her to do anything in her power to get her dad into the HOF, I dont see how that gets turned into lying but hey however you want to twist things be my guest. I doubt King even knows about Kramers daughters claim that Starr does support her dad.  Hard to follow up when he doesnt know. Regardless of all of that, King makes a pretty good point that its for players that were overlooked, and its hard to call Kramer overlooked. Overlooked would be more like Bob Skoronski or Dilweg.</blockquote>

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