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<blockquote data-quote="jaybadger82" data-source="post: 548887" data-attributes="member: 6211"><p>You think Eli is "leaps ahead" of Cutler because he happened to win two rings behind a special pass rush and an offense built on an effective run game? -IMO, you're letting two rings distort your comparison of these two QBs. </p><p></p><p>Big picture: Cutler and Manning are fairly similar talents.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>1) Ohio State sucks. (Sorry Rodell)</p><p>2) The NFL was a different league just ten years ago. Johnson and Dilfer almost belong to different eras than Manning. Offenses in 2001 and 2003 didn't produce the gaudy QB stats that we've seen the past several years.</p><p>3) These guys all played for teams that were carroed by exceptional defenses.</p><p>4) For the most part, Johnson, Dilfer <em>and</em> Manning each played well in order for their teams to achieve a Super Bowl. But I think it's fair to say they didn't drive their teams to victory the way other QBs have (e.g., Joe Montana, Tom Brady, or Aaron Rodgers).</p><p>5) IMO, Johnson, Dilfer and Manning belong in a conversation together because they go to show that it's at least possible to win a Super Bowl without one of the league's best QBs. If that was Rodell's point in bringing these guys up together, I agree with him.</p><p>6) Now how the hell do we explain Flacco's Super Bowl? -A hot streak is the best I've got...</p><p></p><p>If Cutler were running the offense opposite the league's best defense, there's a decent chance he might win a ring too. Fortunately, that won't be the case next year. </p><p></p><p>BTW, in Trestman's offense (and barring injury), you can go ahead and mark Cutler down for better statistical production than Eli Manning in 2014.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jaybadger82, post: 548887, member: 6211"] You think Eli is "leaps ahead" of Cutler because he happened to win two rings behind a special pass rush and an offense built on an effective run game? -IMO, you're letting two rings distort your comparison of these two QBs. Big picture: Cutler and Manning are fairly similar talents. 1) Ohio State sucks. (Sorry Rodell) 2) The NFL was a different league just ten years ago. Johnson and Dilfer almost belong to different eras than Manning. Offenses in 2001 and 2003 didn't produce the gaudy QB stats that we've seen the past several years. 3) These guys all played for teams that were carroed by exceptional defenses. 4) For the most part, Johnson, Dilfer [I]and[/I] Manning each played well in order for their teams to achieve a Super Bowl. But I think it's fair to say they didn't drive their teams to victory the way other QBs have (e.g., Joe Montana, Tom Brady, or Aaron Rodgers). 5) IMO, Johnson, Dilfer and Manning belong in a conversation together because they go to show that it's at least possible to win a Super Bowl without one of the league's best QBs. If that was Rodell's point in bringing these guys up together, I agree with him. 6) Now how the hell do we explain Flacco's Super Bowl? -A hot streak is the best I've got... If Cutler were running the offense opposite the league's best defense, there's a decent chance he might win a ring too. Fortunately, that won't be the case next year. BTW, in Trestman's offense (and barring injury), you can go ahead and mark Cutler down for better statistical production than Eli Manning in 2014. [/QUOTE]
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