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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Carl 2" data-source="post: 748428" data-attributes="member: 12630">Not going to argue everything since I was just spitting out any possibility I could think of.The only thing is the 2011 game vs the Giants wasn't a just an off game. It was atrocious. They had four turnovers and gave the ball away on 4 of 6 2nd half possessions.  The score was a close 20-13 early in the fourth. It wasn't until after a turnover on downs and a fumble giving the Giants the ball at the 4 yard line that the game was out of reach. If the offense was just average that day, the Packers could have won.</blockquote>

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