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<blockquote data-quote="easyk83" data-source="post: 628146" data-attributes="member: 8895"><p>Hawk was too smallish to be a BUCK ILB and he's too small to be a SAM backer. You want a 6'3-6'4 255 pounder, someone almost big enough to put a hand in the dirt. The ideal SAM backer is powerful at the PoA, and yet fluid enough to run with TEs. Brady Poppinga was fast enough and brutally strong at the PoA. He couldn't change direction worth a damn, couldn't cover and forget about him tackling in space. While fans often disliked him his smashmouth play at the point of attack won rave reviews from his coaches and teammates. He covered up Nick Barnett's weakness against any sort of lead blocker. A fullback on Nick equaled surefire pancake. The prototype at that position is a Ben leber, he was a good one for the Vikes. There he does get engulfed by a guard, but most LBs of his build are going to get stoned there.</p><p></p><p>Hawk came into the league as a 236 pound catch and chase Will backer with remarkable speed and refined tackling and coverage technique. He promptly put on 20 pounds and lost much of his speed. As he aged he cut weight and gained back some of his speed, but years of playing too heavy left him an overly cautious hesitant player. At times when given the chance at the Mack position he honestly did look like he could play at a high level, his games against Cleveland and Baltimore attest to this view. But whenever it seemed like AJ Hawk would turn a corner he'd revert to his old form. AJ just didn't fit within our defense, too hesitant and slow to react as a Mack and too small, bad at taking on blockers to be a Buck.</p><p></p><p>But even McGinn graded him out as a C in 2013, I suspect he would have been graded much higher before the collapse of the D-line in the first 7 games. At that point he had 3 sacks and was on pace for 130+ tackles on the season. Yes he was playing well and I recall him grading out well in most of those games.</p><p></p><p>McGinn seems to pin it all on Hawk, but what about the rest of those defenses? Do you guys remember having Jerron and Doctor in the backfield or Brad Jones? How about BJ Raji's play in the second half of 2013? As for that year I recall Pick's play declining considerably during the second half of the season as nagging injuries took their toll.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="easyk83, post: 628146, member: 8895"] Hawk was too smallish to be a BUCK ILB and he's too small to be a SAM backer. You want a 6'3-6'4 255 pounder, someone almost big enough to put a hand in the dirt. The ideal SAM backer is powerful at the PoA, and yet fluid enough to run with TEs. Brady Poppinga was fast enough and brutally strong at the PoA. He couldn't change direction worth a damn, couldn't cover and forget about him tackling in space. While fans often disliked him his smashmouth play at the point of attack won rave reviews from his coaches and teammates. He covered up Nick Barnett's weakness against any sort of lead blocker. A fullback on Nick equaled surefire pancake. The prototype at that position is a Ben leber, he was a good one for the Vikes. There he does get engulfed by a guard, but most LBs of his build are going to get stoned there. Hawk came into the league as a 236 pound catch and chase Will backer with remarkable speed and refined tackling and coverage technique. He promptly put on 20 pounds and lost much of his speed. As he aged he cut weight and gained back some of his speed, but years of playing too heavy left him an overly cautious hesitant player. At times when given the chance at the Mack position he honestly did look like he could play at a high level, his games against Cleveland and Baltimore attest to this view. But whenever it seemed like AJ Hawk would turn a corner he'd revert to his old form. AJ just didn't fit within our defense, too hesitant and slow to react as a Mack and too small, bad at taking on blockers to be a Buck. But even McGinn graded him out as a C in 2013, I suspect he would have been graded much higher before the collapse of the D-line in the first 7 games. At that point he had 3 sacks and was on pace for 130+ tackles on the season. Yes he was playing well and I recall him grading out well in most of those games. McGinn seems to pin it all on Hawk, but what about the rest of those defenses? Do you guys remember having Jerron and Doctor in the backfield or Brad Jones? How about BJ Raji's play in the second half of 2013? As for that year I recall Pick's play declining considerably during the second half of the season as nagging injuries took their toll. [/QUOTE]
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