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<blockquote data-quote="net" data-source="post: 102519" data-attributes="member: 200"><p>Lousy teams are "built" on a foundation of stupidity.</p><p></p><p>It starts at the top with ownership/management who want profit first, victories second. The Bengals and the Cardinals are great examples. Until the Browns and Bidwells finally realized the fan base was about to revolt, they simply let their best talent go when they wanted market price on contracts. So a Pro Bowler is replaced by a second-teamer or rookie. Over time, the team gets a rep among players as being 'cheap', so the best talent won't consider going there. Notice when the Browns and Bidwells finally opened their wallets, things started happening. But it's just as bad the other way: the Dan Snyders, Al Davis' and Jerry Jones'. They throw money around like confetti, yet have only produced middling results. The also are control freak meddlers in the day-to-day operations. </p><p>The key is a dedicated ownership with a feel for the players: the Rooneys in Pittsburgh are an example. By the way, Pittsburgh has been a playoff regular and won the Super Bowl last year.</p><p></p><p>The next point of success is talent evaluation. This is a little mystical, but it mainly is having a keen eye for talent...THAT CAN PLAY ON THE PRO LEVEL... A key problem is many people forget that just because you can master the college level, the pro game is very different. The one or two great players on the other college team are drafted into the NFL where most of the players were great players. The majority of NFL players weren't superstars in college...but the skils they have...like speed...are skills which translate to the NFL. Dumbness...A. Carroll style...is also a factor. The player has to be smart, fast and tough and willing to play hurt. The season is also 16+ games instead of 13 max. It's long and brutal. The best personnel evaluators look for specific traits that translate to the pro level. Some are better at it than others. Ron Wolf had the knack in the lower rounds of finding quality players. The Bears GM-Angelo-has the same ability. Funny, both teams were/are winners.</p><p></p><p>The last key is solid coaching. The pro game requires a coaching staff to deal with guaranteed contracts which means you play a player because of investment, rather, at times, than ability. It puts a new wrinkle into the formula. The best coaching staffs put down a line of demanded performance and say meet it or don't play, regardless of contract.</p><p></p><p>There's much more, but if you find managers/owners dedicated to winning in the era of the salary cap...personnel people capable of finding PRO LEVEL TALENT....and coaches who drive talented players to the level the expect...you will find a winner.</p><p></p><p>Notice I put personnel evaluation above coaching. In the NFL it's all about talent. Great coaching with mediocre talent will only produce middling results. Lousy coaching with great talent will do the same. But great coaching with great talent puts you into the big show.</p><p></p><p>Start comparing the Packers and others to the above levels and see where they measure up.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="net, post: 102519, member: 200"] Lousy teams are "built" on a foundation of stupidity. It starts at the top with ownership/management who want profit first, victories second. The Bengals and the Cardinals are great examples. Until the Browns and Bidwells finally realized the fan base was about to revolt, they simply let their best talent go when they wanted market price on contracts. So a Pro Bowler is replaced by a second-teamer or rookie. Over time, the team gets a rep among players as being 'cheap', so the best talent won't consider going there. Notice when the Browns and Bidwells finally opened their wallets, things started happening. But it's just as bad the other way: the Dan Snyders, Al Davis' and Jerry Jones'. They throw money around like confetti, yet have only produced middling results. The also are control freak meddlers in the day-to-day operations. The key is a dedicated ownership with a feel for the players: the Rooneys in Pittsburgh are an example. By the way, Pittsburgh has been a playoff regular and won the Super Bowl last year. The next point of success is talent evaluation. This is a little mystical, but it mainly is having a keen eye for talent...THAT CAN PLAY ON THE PRO LEVEL... A key problem is many people forget that just because you can master the college level, the pro game is very different. The one or two great players on the other college team are drafted into the NFL where most of the players were great players. The majority of NFL players weren't superstars in college...but the skils they have...like speed...are skills which translate to the NFL. Dumbness...A. Carroll style...is also a factor. The player has to be smart, fast and tough and willing to play hurt. The season is also 16+ games instead of 13 max. It's long and brutal. The best personnel evaluators look for specific traits that translate to the pro level. Some are better at it than others. Ron Wolf had the knack in the lower rounds of finding quality players. The Bears GM-Angelo-has the same ability. Funny, both teams were/are winners. The last key is solid coaching. The pro game requires a coaching staff to deal with guaranteed contracts which means you play a player because of investment, rather, at times, than ability. It puts a new wrinkle into the formula. The best coaching staffs put down a line of demanded performance and say meet it or don't play, regardless of contract. There's much more, but if you find managers/owners dedicated to winning in the era of the salary cap...personnel people capable of finding PRO LEVEL TALENT....and coaches who drive talented players to the level the expect...you will find a winner. Notice I put personnel evaluation above coaching. In the NFL it's all about talent. Great coaching with mediocre talent will only produce middling results. Lousy coaching with great talent will do the same. But great coaching with great talent puts you into the big show. Start comparing the Packers and others to the above levels and see where they measure up. [/QUOTE]
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