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<blockquote data-quote="HardRightEdge" data-source="post: 779711"><p>A couple of thoughts on that:</p><p></p><p>1) Micah Hyde ran a 4.56 at his Pro Day and he seems to have done allright at the position while his field speed doesn't look much better than that.</p><p></p><p>2) Williams' field speed was better than that during his time in Green Bay. What it is today I can't say. The fact he played perimeter corner last season with an 88.8 "high quality" grade from PFF, 1.2 points shy of "elite", suggests he has not lost much in the speed department.</p><p></p><p>3) Among defensive positions, "savvy" comes into play most at the FS position. Film study, reading the offensive formation, making pre-snap adjustments, reading the routes and the QB post-snap, and just plain old experience--all that stuff that goes into "anticipation" and compensates for that "tick slower" if there is one. This especially comes into play if the intent is to go with a lot of man D, which Pettine seems to be saying, where the FS is more free.</p><p></p><p>Like I said, we'll have to see Williams play one position or the other to make some judgement on his FS capability as a temporary solution in lieu of overpaying C-D in year 6 with a franchise tag or an extension. You're not going to get much of a FA replacement for Williams' $4.75 mil cap savings in 2019 with no subsequent year hangover if he were to prove adequate.</p><p></p><p>And it's not like the Packers did anything in this offseason to address the safety positions despite C-D being in a contract year, Burnett departing, Brice being injury prone, Jones' fit being a question mark, and Evans a ho hum kind of player. One factor in the Williams signing would have been position flexibility, including safety.</p><p></p><p>As it stands, were C-D to be injured, the most plausible options at this stage would be Brice FS/Jones SS or Williams FS/Brice or Jones SS. I would not rule out the latter option at this stage.</p><p></p><p>Nor would I rule out C-D FS/Williams SS come opening day if the young corners instill enough confidence. Then there's the possibility training camp and pre-season stars fall flat in money games requiring reshuffling. That happens. And when you look across 5 nickel D backfield positions, games will be missed to injury also requiring reshuffling.</p><p></p><p>With this D backfield, at this stage, there is little to rule in or out for this year or next.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HardRightEdge, post: 779711"] A couple of thoughts on that: 1) Micah Hyde ran a 4.56 at his Pro Day and he seems to have done allright at the position while his field speed doesn't look much better than that. 2) Williams' field speed was better than that during his time in Green Bay. What it is today I can't say. The fact he played perimeter corner last season with an 88.8 "high quality" grade from PFF, 1.2 points shy of "elite", suggests he has not lost much in the speed department. 3) Among defensive positions, "savvy" comes into play most at the FS position. Film study, reading the offensive formation, making pre-snap adjustments, reading the routes and the QB post-snap, and just plain old experience--all that stuff that goes into "anticipation" and compensates for that "tick slower" if there is one. This especially comes into play if the intent is to go with a lot of man D, which Pettine seems to be saying, where the FS is more free. Like I said, we'll have to see Williams play one position or the other to make some judgement on his FS capability as a temporary solution in lieu of overpaying C-D in year 6 with a franchise tag or an extension. You're not going to get much of a FA replacement for Williams' $4.75 mil cap savings in 2019 with no subsequent year hangover if he were to prove adequate. And it's not like the Packers did anything in this offseason to address the safety positions despite C-D being in a contract year, Burnett departing, Brice being injury prone, Jones' fit being a question mark, and Evans a ho hum kind of player. One factor in the Williams signing would have been position flexibility, including safety. As it stands, were C-D to be injured, the most plausible options at this stage would be Brice FS/Jones SS or Williams FS/Brice or Jones SS. I would not rule out the latter option at this stage. Nor would I rule out C-D FS/Williams SS come opening day if the young corners instill enough confidence. Then there's the possibility training camp and pre-season stars fall flat in money games requiring reshuffling. That happens. And when you look across 5 nickel D backfield positions, games will be missed to injury also requiring reshuffling. With this D backfield, at this stage, there is little to rule in or out for this year or next. [/QUOTE]
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