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Ha Ha Clinton extension

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by gopkrs, Jun 13, 2018.

  1. gopkrs

    gopkrs Cheesehead

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    It has been reported that HaHa wants an extention before the start of the season. I think Gute has to get out all the old tapes right now and then watch Clinton very closely when we start practicing for real. Then make a decision. Right now, Roto says it would likely be a $7+ million a year contract. That is what I would do. Check out the game speed and see if he will fit well in the new scheme. No safety was a good fit in the old scheme. It is probably worth making an advance decision.
     
  2. HardRightEdge

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    Every 5th. year option player wants an extension. Wanting and getting are two different things.
     
  3. AmishMafia

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    He looked good to great his first 3 years and then looked poor last season. Some fans only look at last year and forget he looked like a budding star in '16. What Gute needs to do is sit down with Pettine and other coaches and figure out the reason for the regression and the likelihood he gets back on track. I think, I would wait at least till training camp, if not preseason, to see if he is the 2017 player or the 2018 player.
     
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  4. C-Lee

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    He wasn’t THAT great in 2016.

    He needs to show up this year, that’s for sure.
     
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  5. Zartan

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    I'd wait and see how he does this season before offering him an extension. As he played beyond crap last season. Have this season be a prove it season to earn that good next contract.
     
  6. captainWIMM

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    I agree with several other posters that the Packers should wait before re-signing Clinton-Dix to a lucrative long term extension until he proves that he can perform at a better level than in 2017.
     
  7. Conan Troutman

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    It's not even his play last year, there's just no need to extend him now given how lukewarm the safety market is right now. Teams are reluctant to spend a lot on safety, even a good starter. It doesn't really make sense to give him $7+ million before the season starts. Even if he has a great year, his price just isn't going to go up that much.
     
  8. captainWIMM

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    If the Packers believe Clinton-Dix could develop into an elite safety it might be smart to sign him to an extension now after a down season as it would most likely be significantly cheaper than next offseason.
     
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  9. PackerDNA

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    More than his overall mediocre play, the thing that bugs me most is his attitude. He came across in an interview the other day that the main reason he missed mini camp was money; he didn't have a bonus or financial incentive to be there. There's a theory he dogged it last season because he didn't want to risk his contract year on a lost season. So what happens when he gets a big money deal? He becomes the next Albert Haynesworth?
    All things aside, I don't want a guy who quits on his team and dogs it the way he did last season. You'll never be able to count on a guy like that.
     
  10. captainWIMM

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    While Clinton-Dix mentioned that not having any workout bonuses factored into his decision to skip voluntary OTAs it seems like the death of his godmother and spending time with his family was the main reason for not showing up in Green Bay.
     
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  11. PackerDNA

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    Doesn't excuse or account for the rest of the crap swirling around him. Unless he's had grandmas dying left and right.
     
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  12. captainWIMM

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    The Packers front office and coaching staff definitely have to be confident that Clinton-Dix is capable of performing at a high level as well as being a consummate professional. In my opinion it's tough to fairly evaluate him for some fans seemingly having quit on the team last season from outside the organization though.
     
  13. PackerDNA

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    The guy obviously dogged it at times last year. Do you really want a quitter as a 'team leader'?
     
  14. captainWIMM

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    I definitely don't want a quitter as a leader of the team or even on the roster. But in my opinion it's extremely tough to evaluate if Clinton-Dix quit on the team last season and I haven't heard anyone within the Packers organization mentioning it. If Gutekunst or the coaching staff consider it to have happened or be a possibility in the future the team definitely shouldn't re-sign him though.
     
  15. PackerDNA

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    Watch the Lions tape. There's more, but that one screams.
     
  16. captainWIMM

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    I definitely don't want to watch that game again ;)
     
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  17. Mondio

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    Clinton Dix isn't a priority for me right now, i think i've made my feelings clear on that. I think he's been up and down and a little overrated. Lots of airmailed INT's and then last year I remember an INT against Baltimore where he turned and ran with the guy and made a great pick. And I'm thinking, that's what I'm talking about. That's what we need. A playmaker. But then I never really saw it again and it seemed to get much worse as the season went on. By years end, in my eyes, he was just going thru the motions. That's the part that I dislike the most. but he's young and may learn from it.

    I found that play, around the 2:20 mark in this video.

     
  18. gopkrs

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    His price may not go up a lot but he will then be a free agent I believe. If Gute believes in him; then b4 the season starts would be the time to sign him.
     
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    Capers put him back .He should be up. He isn't that good of a coverage safety. He is good at getting pressure, making tackles, and capitalizing on bad passes. Our defense couldn't pressure anyone consistently last year. Qbs with no pressure, don't make bad passes typically.

    Haha is just like Adams. Just like Monty. Just like Clark. They are great, but unproven. And at times, they got beat up or out classes in their rookie deals .but there is no doubt these guys have greatness flowing through their veins...

    It's up to the coaches to see it and use it properly. Haha back in coverage with Burnett up was a bad call. Burnett is a better coverage safety. Imo.
     
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    Clinton-Dix is definitely capable of excelling in coverge as a free safety as well. It was a tough assignment with the lack of talent at cornerback over the past two seasons though.

    Adams is already a proven receiver in the league and Clark is at least on the cusp of it.
     
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    From what I seen of our string of great safety's, is that it takes 4,5,6 years to get their coverage game together. Haha might be close after all the recent practice. But two years ago , we was a half step behind pretty consistently, but made up for it with a int, or big play every once in a while.
    Burnett on the other hand had become a very good safety in coverage But GB wanted him to take the next step to the do all "woodson role"... he did OK, but was no woodson. Not much impact up front, and not many reads resulting in turnovers.
    I still believe the experience would have been better served back deep in coverage. While the young aggressive Alabama alum rolls like the tide.

    I'm just saying there are certain players who have "it" right away. Developed consistently. But because this is the NFL, they get their rookie rears kicked from time to time. Or injured doing things they could get away with in school. But in the NFL they get tattoo'd or broken... By second contract, they are the ones doing the tattooing and breaking. We can't let him go. And the sooner we sign, the cheaper he looks 3 years from now when he is a allpro
     
  22. swhitset

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    It’s the “if” part of the first sentence where I have my doubts.
     
  23. PackerDNA

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    I'm sorry but....we talkin' about the same guy?
     
  24. PackerDNA

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    And while we're at it, how can anyone be great if they're unproven???
     
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  25. Conan Troutman

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    I just think the risk of overpaying a good-but-not-great player at a non-premium position outweighs the chances of saving a million or two. Keeping your options open and letting this play out seems preferable to me in this case.

    You can always use the franchise tag if he turns in that great of a season if you're only worried about losing him.
     

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