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<blockquote data-quote="jaybadger82" data-source="post: 490373" data-attributes="member: 6211"><p></p><p>In my mind, I tend to distinguish between "bigotry," which suggests animosity toward someone on the basis of race (terrible), and "racism," which suggests different treatment on the basis of race but not necessarily out of animosity (sometimes unintentional). In this sense, I agree that racism is widespread. The genuine ignorance/animosity behind it seems to vary according to the circumstances...</p><p> </p><p>To a degree, racism is unavoidable when you consider our evolution as a social species (interesting link <a href="http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=evolution-of-prejudice" target="_blank">here</a>). One hopes that thoughtful people learn to recognize these genetic tendencies and take steps to guard against the creep of such racism in their day-to-day lives but I'm not certain whether this part of our genetic wiring can be completely dismantled. In a perfect world we would treat everyone the same regardless of race, but I fear a truly colorblind society is something of a fairytale. The <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcG47CpsU6c" target="_blank">"Us & Them"</a> mentality is very persistent and is wired into our nature (not just in the context of race, see HardRightEdge's rants about the South).</p><p> </p><p>You're totally right about context really shaping how racial observations are construed.</p><p> </p><p>I only mention the black community in Milwaukee to rebut the implication that the North is some sort of bastion of racial progress and equality compared to the South. HardRightEdge's comments reflect a certain vitriol for the South, which- like most forms of hatred- derive from ignorance and lack of understanding. The South still has plenty of progress to make. But I count South Carolina's healthier black middle class population as an improvement over that of many states in the upper Midwest (including WI). From a personal standpoint, I enjoy having black neighbors. This sort of integration between blacks and whites is extremely rare in <a href="http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/milwaukee.jpg" target="_blank">the part of Wisconsin I grew up in</a>. Such scathing criticism of the South often overlooks the problems at home.</p><p> </p><p>Frank's decision to mention the race of some of the players on his list had me speculating on the thinking behind that but I didn't sense animosity underneath it. I have seen some of the links he's provided above and, right or wrong, I believe the popular presumption is that black people are better athletes.</p><p> </p><p>It's worth observing that sometimes people from different backgrounds use widely held social stereotypes in order to facilitate positive interaction. Racist? -Yep; Hateful? -Not always. (The movie <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1855199/" target="_blank">End of Watch</a>, illustrated this sort of interaction between the main characters nicely.)</p><p> </p><p>I realize this is a sensitive topic that strays dangerously close to the political, so I'll shut up. I just really enjoyed everyone's comments (even HardRightEdge's).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jaybadger82, post: 490373, member: 6211"] [FONT=Arial][/FONT] In my mind, I tend to distinguish between "bigotry," which suggests animosity toward someone on the basis of race (terrible), and "racism," which suggests different treatment on the basis of race but not necessarily out of animosity (sometimes unintentional). In this sense, I agree that racism is widespread. The genuine ignorance/animosity behind it seems to vary according to the circumstances... To a degree, racism is unavoidable when you consider our evolution as a social species (interesting link [URL='http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=evolution-of-prejudice']here[/URL]). One hopes that thoughtful people learn to recognize these genetic tendencies and take steps to guard against the creep of such racism in their day-to-day lives but I'm not certain whether this part of our genetic wiring can be completely dismantled. In a perfect world we would treat everyone the same regardless of race, but I fear a truly colorblind society is something of a fairytale. The [URL='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcG47CpsU6c']"Us & Them"[/URL] mentality is very persistent and is wired into our nature (not just in the context of race, see HardRightEdge's rants about the South). You're totally right about context really shaping how racial observations are construed. I only mention the black community in Milwaukee to rebut the implication that the North is some sort of bastion of racial progress and equality compared to the South. HardRightEdge's comments reflect a certain vitriol for the South, which- like most forms of hatred- derive from ignorance and lack of understanding. The South still has plenty of progress to make. But I count South Carolina's healthier black middle class population as an improvement over that of many states in the upper Midwest (including WI). From a personal standpoint, I enjoy having black neighbors. This sort of integration between blacks and whites is extremely rare in [URL='http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/milwaukee.jpg']the part of Wisconsin I grew up in[/URL]. Such scathing criticism of the South often overlooks the problems at home. Frank's decision to mention the race of some of the players on his list had me speculating on the thinking behind that but I didn't sense animosity underneath it. I have seen some of the links he's provided above and, right or wrong, I believe the popular presumption is that black people are better athletes. It's worth observing that sometimes people from different backgrounds use widely held social stereotypes in order to facilitate positive interaction. Racist? -Yep; Hateful? -Not always. (The movie [URL='http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1855199/']End of Watch[/URL], illustrated this sort of interaction between the main characters nicely.) I realize this is a sensitive topic that strays dangerously close to the political, so I'll shut up. I just really enjoyed everyone's comments (even HardRightEdge's). [/QUOTE]
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