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GM has improved Packers, but by how much?

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by Zero2Cool, Feb 10, 2007.

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  1. Zero2Cool

    Zero2Cool I own a website

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    I'm not going through all this again. lol Someone else can dig up the stats proving the Packers were not going anywhere regardless of the HC or GM in 2005.
     
  2. Mackie2001

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    Bates did one thing that I really respect. He took a bad defense and made it respectable but that's not saying they were good. The Packers now have a defense, if the young guys start making their move, that could become a good one without using smoke and mirrors.

    The offensive line is now young and healthy with athletic players. In some ways it reminds me of the oline in 2000, when Tausch and Clifton were rookies and Wahle was moved to left guard from left tackle. Remember that the oline really didn't start to blossom until 2001.

    I beleive we have the makings of a good young receiving corps. I gotta like Holiday and Martin. Both made strides in limited playing time last year and I'm betting that they both make it.

    We have a linebacking corps that will be one of the best and the dline is improved. I don't know if we have the answer at DE but the Packers could use another speed rusher that isn't easily blocked. KGB is the only proven speed rush the Packers have had for years.

    You have to like the addition of Woodson. It looks like we have a safety that could be a faster, more athletic LeRoy Butler in Collins. The jury is still out on Manuel but I think he'll be just fine with the off season workouts, mini-camps and a full training camp under his belt.

    No matter how you perceive the current team, the Packers were getting old and didn't have a very good defense and lousy special teams. The potential is everywhere. Now it's up to McCarthy to change potential into plays.
     
  3. Cliff

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    Absolutely not! The Packers have not seen any dividends from the Ted Thompson hiring but you have to give him more time. 2007 will be a crossroad year for Thompson.

    See post "2004 Packers" where stats provided show that the 2004 Packers are a much better team than the 2006 version.
     
  4. Cliff

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    In an article in "The Seattle Times" GM Mike Holmgren was asked by sports columnist Danny O'Neil to what extent Ted Thompson's input had on Seattle's draft selections. Holmgren's response was:

    " I am the GM in Seattle and I am totally responsible for making the Seahawks draft picks. Ted Thompson is my errand boy."
     
  5. Zero2Cool

    Zero2Cool I own a website

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    Yeah, the fact that Longwell was 48 out of 48 for extra points was a solid statement!
     
  6. Zero2Cool

    Zero2Cool I own a website

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    http://archives.seattletimes.nwsour.../web/vortex/display?slug=hawk28&date=20010128



    Found this in another article.
    "That's the thing about the underclassmen," Thompson said. "You don't really know a lot about them. The seniors, you've seen them and you have a lot of tape on them. But the underclassmen, it's more of a risk."



    Was Chad Jackson a Jr and Greg Jennings a Sr?





    edit, Yep, Chad was a Jr, Greg was a Sr. I wonder how much of that played in to Ted drafting Greg over Chad.
     
  7. all about da packers

    all about da packers Cheesehead

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    Are you sure this wasn't during the time Holmgren was GM. The quote would seem to appropriate during Holmgrens run as the GM, but not so much so after that.

    Got a date?
     
  8. HatestheEagles084

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    i love the job that ted thompson has done, personally...he goes with the new england patriots mentality of not overpaying for players, and if they want more money theyre gone

    At this stage I'd rather have Colledge-Wells-Spitz healthy and young with a new blocking scheme which is starting to work for us than Wahle-Flanagan-Rivera making probably 4x the money, us being in cap trouble, and on the wrong side of 30.

    At this stage I'd rather have a promising young character player like Greg Jennings than Javon Walker, overpaid and on one bad knee

    Ahmad Caroll sucked and because he was a first round mistake by Mike Sherman we felt obligated to play him so we'd actually get some use out of him--hurting the team even more, gone...

    speaking of erasing sherman's errors BJ Sander is no longer a problem, we didn't overpay Ryan Longwell like a lot of us wanted, and we have Jon Ryan and Dave Rayner who are formidable for special teams

    Najeh Davenport did alright for pitt this year but Thompson took the avenue of being able to count on his players being healthy rather than the risk of davenport crapping out (no pun intended) midway thru the season

    KGB and Bubba Franks are hopefully next...with whatever savings against the cap we have we can spend on players who actually contribute to the team

    and don't act like ted thompson's cheap, everybody forgets he threw out the money to keep aaron kampman a packer, i think that worked out...as did the signing of charles woodson
     
  9. Zero2Cool

    Zero2Cool I own a website

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  10. kmac

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    Hahahahaha, owned.
     
  11. tromadz

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    ****** super owned
     
  12. Cliff

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    From: Danny O'Neil [mailto:doneil@seattletimes.com]
    Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 4:33 PM
    To: cliff
    Subject: RE: Kevin from Packerforum.com

    No cliff, I have never recieved any E-mails from a person named Kevin from Packerforum.com inqiring about one of my columns in The Seattle Times regarding Mike Holmgren and Ted Thompson.

    This guy must be pulling your leg. Take care and good luck.

    Danny O.
     
  13. Zero2Cool

    Zero2Cool I own a website

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    :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
    PAY ATTENTION! Check out all the idiotic errors you made while BEING AN IDIOT!


    I FWD the emails to Ryan. He can do as he pleases.

    Anyone else wants them, you are more than welcome to them.

    I doubt anyone will as I am not the type of person to lie. I'm many things, jerk, *******, prick, but one thing I am not, is a liar.
     
  14. Cliff

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    You had to edit a copy and paste job. :rotflmao:
     
  15. Zero2Cool

    Zero2Cool I own a website

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    First post was my initial msg, then his reply.

    After posting it, he replied again, so I posted that information as well.

    I felt it was the responsible thing to do. Ya know, give the TRUTH!


    I like you. This is fun. :thumbsup:
     
  16. Cliff

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    :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
     
  17. Raider Pride

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    ZERO YOU ARE MY HERO!

    I am going to be up your way, and I want to buy you a Steak Dinner and all the beer you can drink.

    This may be the biggest ball busting post in the history of on line forums.

    I am serious.... Zero Is My Hero!


    P.S. A.A.D.P.... I Told You So! .... Man I told you so. It is a sickness.

    Raider Pride.
     
  18. Cliff

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    Why would you reward sickness with a steak dinner?
     
  19. tromadz

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    Is that really Depack?
     
  20. Zero2Cool

    Zero2Cool I own a website

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    No. DePack, if he did something similar to Cliff, he'd more than likely say 'crap im busted' or something on those lines and admit he lied.

    Cliff undermined the intellgence of the users on this forum and it slapped him in the face.
     
  21. Cliff

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    I always know when I'm winning because the insults start coming.

    Don't worry zero, you're RP's hero.
     
  22. Raider Pride

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    Cliff,

    Just the fact you called me "RP" and not "Raider Pride" proves you have been on this forum a lot longer than a couple of months.

    Welcome Back DePack.
     
  23. all about da packers

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    Well, I say it's best if we all get back to the original thread topic. :)
     
  24. Zero2Cool

    Zero2Cool I own a website

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    That is a splendid idea. How are we to do such a thing with a poster who will dredge up quotes that were never said while claiming a writer provided those quotes?
     
  25. tromadz

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    thats what ive said for a while. Blatant lying is worse than any namecalling.
     
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