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<blockquote data-quote="wist43" data-source="post: 569152" data-attributes="member: 9839"><p>Disclosure Note: I put this together after the game... was in a hurry and only looked at DL alignments - did not look at whether they were in Dime, or as the case happened to be a few times, as Bob McGinn pointed out in an article - they were actually in a 2-5 some of the time.</p><p> </p><p>I assigned the 2-5 as a 2-4 without realizing one of the backend players was a LB, instead of another DB.</p><p> </p><p>McGinn speculated that the 2-5 will be our new base defense this year... we'll see, but given that TT/MM booted all of our run stopping DL, and only had 4 DL active for the game, I suspect that might be the case.</p><p> </p><p>---------------------------------------------------------------------------- </p><p> </p><p>I blazed thru the tape, with the emphasis on blazed. Didn't study anything - why a given alignment failed or succeeded... except on a couple of occassions.</p><p></p><p>In the 1st half, they ran the 2-4 almost exclusively. I was surprised when I paused each presnap and realized they were actually in a 2-4. Watching the game live, some of what looked like Elephant, or even 3-4 was actually a 2-4 when I went thru the tape.</p><p></p><p>In the 1st half, they ran the 2-4 20 times out of 28 snaps. </p><p></p><p>They ran the 3-4 base only 3 times - one of the plays resulting in a Seattle holding call, so it was 'no play'.</p><p></p><p>They ran the Amoeba or Elephant 7 times, with 1 play (our only actual sack) being nullified by the brain surgeon, Brad Jones.</p><p></p><p>So in the first half, the results of the plays were (not in order, and with only scant observations):</p><p></p><p><u>2-4</u></p><p>Run +5 yds (on 1st and 10)</p><p>Pass +8</p><p>Run -1</p><p>Run +13</p><p>Pass - no gain (sack - run out of bounds, no sack really)</p><p>Run +5</p><p>Pass +4 (forced a 4th down)</p><p>Run +10 (on 1st and 20 after Seattle holding penalty)</p><p>Pass +9 (1st and 20 is now 3rd and 1)</p><p>Run +7 (on 3rd and 1, 3 wides split left, run right - too easy)</p><p>Pass -2</p><p>Pass +33 (next play was the other 33 yd gash for the TD against the Elephant)</p><p>Pass +22 (1st and 10, 2 wides)</p><p>Pass Incomplete</p><p>Run +21 (on 2nd and 5)</p><p>Run +9 (1st and goal from the 9, 3 wides, Hawk was laughable on this play, Touchdown)</p><p>Pass +2</p><p>Run +7</p><p><u>Run +5 (halftime)</u></p><p>Rushing yds allowed = 81 yds, and 1 TD</p><p>Passing yds allowed = 76 yds</p><p></p><p><u>3-4</u></p><p>Pass +4</p><p>Run (resulted in holding call that put the Seahawks at 1st and 20 from the own 10 yd line)</p><p><u>Run +2 (on 2nd and 1)</u></p><p>Rushing yds allowed = 2 yds</p><p>Passing yds allowed = 4 yds</p><p></p><p><u>Elephant/Amoeba</u></p><p>E-Run +4 (1st and 10)</p><p>E-Pass Incomplete</p><p>E-Pass +33 (laughable TD)</p><p>E-Run +9</p><p>E-Pass (Sack nullified by Jones holding)</p><p>E-Run +8</p><p><u>E-Pass Incomplete</u></p><p>Rushing yds allowed = 21 yds</p><p>Passing yds allowed = 33 yds, 1 TD</p><p></p><p>That was the first half.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wist43, post: 569152, member: 9839"] Disclosure Note: I put this together after the game... was in a hurry and only looked at DL alignments - did not look at whether they were in Dime, or as the case happened to be a few times, as Bob McGinn pointed out in an article - they were actually in a 2-5 some of the time. I assigned the 2-5 as a 2-4 without realizing one of the backend players was a LB, instead of another DB. McGinn speculated that the 2-5 will be our new base defense this year... we'll see, but given that TT/MM booted all of our run stopping DL, and only had 4 DL active for the game, I suspect that might be the case. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- I blazed thru the tape, with the emphasis on blazed. Didn't study anything - why a given alignment failed or succeeded... except on a couple of occassions. In the 1st half, they ran the 2-4 almost exclusively. I was surprised when I paused each presnap and realized they were actually in a 2-4. Watching the game live, some of what looked like Elephant, or even 3-4 was actually a 2-4 when I went thru the tape. In the 1st half, they ran the 2-4 20 times out of 28 snaps. They ran the 3-4 base only 3 times - one of the plays resulting in a Seattle holding call, so it was 'no play'. They ran the Amoeba or Elephant 7 times, with 1 play (our only actual sack) being nullified by the brain surgeon, Brad Jones. So in the first half, the results of the plays were (not in order, and with only scant observations): [U]2-4[/U] Run +5 yds (on 1st and 10) Pass +8 Run -1 Run +13 Pass - no gain (sack - run out of bounds, no sack really) Run +5 Pass +4 (forced a 4th down) Run +10 (on 1st and 20 after Seattle holding penalty) Pass +9 (1st and 20 is now 3rd and 1) Run +7 (on 3rd and 1, 3 wides split left, run right - too easy) Pass -2 Pass +33 (next play was the other 33 yd gash for the TD against the Elephant) Pass +22 (1st and 10, 2 wides) Pass Incomplete Run +21 (on 2nd and 5) Run +9 (1st and goal from the 9, 3 wides, Hawk was laughable on this play, Touchdown) Pass +2 Run +7 [U]Run +5 (halftime)[/U] Rushing yds allowed = 81 yds, and 1 TD Passing yds allowed = 76 yds [U]3-4[/U] Pass +4 Run (resulted in holding call that put the Seahawks at 1st and 20 from the own 10 yd line) [U]Run +2 (on 2nd and 1)[/U] Rushing yds allowed = 2 yds Passing yds allowed = 4 yds [U]Elephant/Amoeba[/U] E-Run +4 (1st and 10) E-Pass Incomplete E-Pass +33 (laughable TD) E-Run +9 E-Pass (Sack nullified by Jones holding) E-Run +8 [U]E-Pass Incomplete[/U] Rushing yds allowed = 21 yds Passing yds allowed = 33 yds, 1 TD That was the first half. [/QUOTE]
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