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<blockquote data-quote="HardRightEdge" data-source="post: 619072"><p>The catch radius issue goes beyond contested balls (tight coverage, back shoulder, etc.). It's also about balls intentionally thrown away from defenders ("thrown open" as the expression goes), or throws that are unintentionally a bit high or bit out in front. It's less of an issue on floating deep balls like Janis' TD catch in this last preseason game; it is an issue on short to intermediate routes where the ball comes up on the receiver with velocity either high or away. 15 years ago, body catching was less of a disqualifier. In today's offensive state-of-the art it is much more so.</p><p></p><p>I cannot recall Janis being thrown a short to intermediate ball where he needs to reach for it in stride. I'd like to see one. This begs a question...are Packer QBs limiting their Janis throws to the deep floaters and those where they can safely target his chest?</p><p></p><p>Then there's the matter of route running. The idea that a receiver's play call is "run 10 yards and out" being a fixed prescription is far in the NFL rear view mirror. There are plenty of option routes in NFL offenses today based on the receiver's defensive read that needs to be in tune with the QB read. And even if he has a fixed route in a combo play, there's latitude in the line he takes based on the defense. If a receiver can't be trusted to go where the QB reads he should go, the lack of trust will sharply limit opportunities.</p><p></p><p>We need to see more of the right kind of things. We know Janis can throw a double move on a guy and kick it into high gear. But if that's all he has, it is not enough for anything but spot play and special teams. That's the dictionary definition of a guy on the bubble.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HardRightEdge, post: 619072"] The catch radius issue goes beyond contested balls (tight coverage, back shoulder, etc.). It's also about balls intentionally thrown away from defenders ("thrown open" as the expression goes), or throws that are unintentionally a bit high or bit out in front. It's less of an issue on floating deep balls like Janis' TD catch in this last preseason game; it is an issue on short to intermediate routes where the ball comes up on the receiver with velocity either high or away. 15 years ago, body catching was less of a disqualifier. In today's offensive state-of-the art it is much more so. I cannot recall Janis being thrown a short to intermediate ball where he needs to reach for it in stride. I'd like to see one. This begs a question...are Packer QBs limiting their Janis throws to the deep floaters and those where they can safely target his chest? Then there's the matter of route running. The idea that a receiver's play call is "run 10 yards and out" being a fixed prescription is far in the NFL rear view mirror. There are plenty of option routes in NFL offenses today based on the receiver's defensive read that needs to be in tune with the QB read. And even if he has a fixed route in a combo play, there's latitude in the line he takes based on the defense. If a receiver can't be trusted to go where the QB reads he should go, the lack of trust will sharply limit opportunities. We need to see more of the right kind of things. We know Janis can throw a double move on a guy and kick it into high gear. But if that's all he has, it is not enough for anything but spot play and special teams. That's the dictionary definition of a guy on the bubble. [/QUOTE]
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