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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TJV" data-source="post: 617958" data-attributes="member: 4300">IMO "average" puts a player right in the middle of the players under consideration. "Good" is above average, a clear step up from average. And I think 'absolutely terrible during the last two seasons' is a much worse characterization than ' he was good except for the last two years'. IMO Hawk's biggest problem was the expectations that resulted from where he was drafted. Until the last couple of years...As to certain posters here, I find it funny and ironic that one who attacks others with personal insults, once for no good reason at all and another when he responded to the wrong post, complains about others here. He’s also the one who ends posts with “End of story” as if he’s the last word on a subject. And after those actions lacks the self-awareness to the extent of calling others insecure. Who slings personal insults for no reason except the insecure?</blockquote>

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