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Let me just say I initially had Golden on my Draft Contest. However my true guess was there was only a 20-30% chance Matthew Golden made #23 overall. I suspected he went in the Teens as the 2nd or 3rd WR overall. Rarely do those get to the 23rd selection. I truly thought Golden would get selected before Egbuka so I added Egbuka thinking Brian would treat us fans. It just makes sense it’s so rare you get to draft in GB.

I am surprised he made it to #23, with his speed I thought he would be the second WR off of the board (as they say, you can't coach speed). It feels like an Al Davis pick.

I'd love to see him on the field opposite a healthy Christian Watson with Jaden Reed in the slot and Tucker Craft at TE. Along with Jacobs in the backfield I think GB's offense would keep opposing defensive coordinators up at night.
 

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I am surprised he made it to #23, with his speed I thought he would be the second WR off of the board (as they say, you can't coach speed). It feels like an Al Davis pick.

I'd love to see him on the field opposite a healthy Christian Watson with Jaden Reed in the slot and Tucker Craft at TE. Along with Jacobs in the backfield I think GB's offense would keep opposing defensive coordinators up at night.
Yeah that's a scary good offense. Add in Love playing a complete season, and the sky is the limit. That requires a lot of things to come together but, hey, why not?

It's also a pretty good testament to Gluten's drafting ability.
 

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You hope more often than not that a wideout does not get called for holding or an " illegal " block. Or injured trying to block. Receivers initially can test their blocking ability on special teams.
That's a good point. Clearly the bigger WRs can take on blocking with less fear of injury. It requires physicality and smarts to not get called for setting a pick.
 

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Yeah that's a scary good offense. Add in Love playing a complete season, and the sky is the limit. That requires a lot of things to come together but, hey, why not?

It's also a pretty good testament to Gluten's drafting ability.

The key, as always, will be health. If they can get all those guys on the field at the same time and the o-line plays at the level it did last seas, that's a scary group.

Also anxious to see what Marshawn Lloyd could potentially bring to the table.
 
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A lot of mocks had him going to Dallas at #12. Dallas reached for an OL, and Equbka (sp?) was taken before Golden. He fell all the way to #23. I think he's the best WR in this draft, so that looks like a value pick. Of course, time will tell.

As for the draft contest, Golden is the only one I got right........
He’s pretty much more equal in real time, but when you see that change in QB and immediate production spike after transferring in his Junior season it’s pretty telling. First year in that system and just tore it up pretty good as the season wore on.

I think some teams might’ve been scared off by his size, but it sure didn’t slow down Chris Olave and he’s similar size. Olave came in 1.5” taller but 4lb lighter. He put up 2,165 yards across his first 2 seasons. I’m not suggesting that’s automatic, he’ll have to earn the Trust of Jordan. But if he’s healthy all season he’ll produce. I see his low around Watson 600-650 range. That’s tripping in the door.
 
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When you draft a WR this high and it potentially makes Doubs WR4 and Wicks WR5 and our WR6 is a high upside, Dual threat RD3 selection?

There’s Just a lot that can go right looking across this Roster on Offense

It’s the same thing that could’ve happened on our D if we drafted Jahdae. Double Shot of JA JAH!
 

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He’s pretty much more equal in real time, but when you see that change in QB and immediate production spike after transferring in his Junior season it’s pretty telling. First year in that system and just tore it up pretty good as the season wore on.

I think some teams might’ve been scared off by his size, but it sure didn’t slow down Chris Olave and he’s similar size. Olave came in 1.5” taller but 4lb lighter. He put up 2,165 yards across his first 2 seasons. I’m not suggesting that’s automatic, he’ll have to earn the Trust of Jordan. But if he’s healthy all season he’ll produce. I see his low around Watson 600-650 range. That’s tripping in the door.
I'd be ok with a 600-700 yard season for Golden. a lot of variables - how quickly will he pick up the system, adjust to NFL speed, and connect with Love. It is telling that in his one year at an SEC powerhouse, he tore it up. Looks like he's a quick learner. And he's used to playing for a winner. That helps.

I hope we see a lineup of Golden and Watson wide out, Reed in the slot, and Kraft and/or Musgrave at TE, and of course Jacobs and Love. On paper, that's a powerful lineup. It's a long way from here to there though. Hope Watson is 3 months ahead of schedule, very possible given his athleticism and determination.
 

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The key, as always, will be health. If they can get all those guys on the field at the same time and the o-line plays at the level it did last seas, that's a scary group.

Also anxious to see what Marshawn Lloyd could potentially bring to the table.
I feel the same way about Lloyd. He was a second round pick, right? If he can step up and provide solid snaps, MLF may be able to rest Jacobs a bit. Although resting Jacobs sounds like an oxymoron. Like most backs of his type, he gets stronger as the game goes on.

Regardless, the Packers have a talented group behind (and with) Jacobs.
 

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I feel the same way about Lloyd. He was a second round pick, right? If he can step up and provide solid snaps, MLF may be able to rest Jacobs a bit. Although resting Jacobs sounds like an oxymoron. Like most backs of his type, he gets stronger as the game goes on.

Regardless, the Packers have a talented group behind (and with) Jacobs.

Third round pick, 88th overall.

Some folks were really excited about him when he was drafted:

Senior Bowl’s Jim Nagy Calls Packers’ MarShawn Lloyd ‘Best Back in Draft’

A third-round pick by the Packers, MarShawn Lloyd's second-level "juice" stood out to Senior Bowl executive director Jim Nagy.


 

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Third round pick, 88th overall.

Some folks were really excited about him when he was drafted:

Senior Bowl’s Jim Nagy Calls Packers’ MarShawn Lloyd ‘Best Back in Draft’

A third-round pick by the Packers, MarShawn Lloyd's second-level "juice" stood out to Senior Bowl executive director Jim Nagy.


Thanks for the update Curly. Third round. And thanks for the article - very complete in pointing out Lloyd's considerable strengths, and weaknesses like ball security and pass-catching ability. He's a big dude, and fast for his size.
 

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Thanks for the update Curly. Third round. And thanks for the article - very complete in pointing out Lloyd's considerable strengths, and weaknesses like ball security and pass-catching ability. He's a big dude, and fast for his size.

Glad you liked it. You might enjoy knowing this as well:


The Green Bay Packers found their change-of-pace running back in MarShawn Lloyd, but another team was trying to snag him in the 2024 NFL Draft.

Lloyd was selected with the 88th pick in this year’s draft by the Packers. However, ESPN’s Jeremy Fowler reported that the Dallas Cowboys were also interested in the USC prospect.

“Dallas had shown enough pre-draft love to MarShawn Lloyd that the USC tailback (who went to Green Bay at No. 88) thought the Cowboys would be one of the possible teams to draft him,” Fowler reported.

The Cowboys weren’t the only other team interested in Lloyd, either.

“Like Dallas…[the New York Giants] also had [their] sights on USC running back MarShawn Lloyd as a future lead back but didn’t have a pick between Nos. 71 and 107,” Fowler wrote.

It seems that Lloyd was a hot commodity, but the Packers were able to get him before another team could.

 

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Glad you liked it. You might enjoy knowing this as well:


The Green Bay Packers found their change-of-pace running back in MarShawn Lloyd, but another team was trying to snag him in the 2024 NFL Draft.

Lloyd was selected with the 88th pick in this year’s draft by the Packers. However, ESPN’s Jeremy Fowler reported that the Dallas Cowboys were also interested in the USC prospect.

“Dallas had shown enough pre-draft love to MarShawn Lloyd that the USC tailback (who went to Green Bay at No. 88) thought the Cowboys would be one of the possible teams to draft him,” Fowler reported.

The Cowboys weren’t the only other team interested in Lloyd, either.

“Like Dallas…[the New York Giants] also had [their] sights on USC running back MarShawn Lloyd as a future lead back but didn’t have a pick between Nos. 71 and 107,” Fowler wrote.

It seems that Lloyd was a hot commodity, but the Packers were able to get him before another team could.

Interesting stuff. I didn't realize he's 5'8" (and 220 lbs). I look forward to seeing what he can do when healthy.
 

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