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Erik Walden charged with disordely conduct

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by News Bot, Nov 25, 2011.

  1. realcaliforniacheese

    realcaliforniacheese A-Rods Boss

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    Yeah, First marriage was hell, second one is wonderful. Any way nuff on this thread.
     
  2. 13 Times Champs

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    Starting to get a flavor for why certain people posted as they did. :sneaky:;)
     
  3. longtimefan

    longtimefan Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

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    Exactly...

    I been on the side of being abused...So that is why I wanted to wait to hear everything before convicting him
     
  4. longtimefan

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    http://www.nbc26.com/news/local/134769058.html


     
  5. Southpaw

    Southpaw Endorphin Junkie

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    Good to hear that he'll be able to play
     
  6. 13 Times Champs

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    I've seen abuse the other way and I think it happens more often the other way around. Being judgmental either way isn't good.
     
  7. longtimefan

    longtimefan Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

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    I wasnt being judgmental with Erik tho?
     
  8. 13 Times Champs

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    I don't think there is a difference in someone as you say convicting him without all the evidence being available but then asking for an apology when he has been released without the process being complete. There's a disconnect there to me.
     
  9. longtimefan

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    I said this 4 times now..If you dont want to give an apology, for blaming HIM w/o facts thats fine..Just want to know WHY....

    Now she says it was her...Why not blame HER and say he was innocent?? Because people can't believe she did the abuse, think it is a lie just to get money...Well thats not right either....

    I feel like I am a horrible person for saying wait till all the facts come out..Or at least until a trial if there is one..

    Just hope if I ever need a jury I get what the systems says I am entitled to... innocent until proven guilty


    So I am done...My opinion is not being understood, maybe I am not explaining it right..But no sense in keep going back and forth
     
  10. TJV

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    I think I can help you out, longtimefan. First, it is human nature not to want to admit a mistake. It's not at the "fight or flight" level but still a strong inclination. Second, although it seems unlikely with the girlfriend's change of story, Walden may end up being convicted of something associated with this incident. So there's a chance those, that upon the first report proclaimed Walden guilty, will feel vindicated after jumping to conclusions without knowing the facts. They can then avoid admitting a mistake even though IMO upon further review they did no matter the outcome. The issue IMO is that none of us knew anything about the story when it broke except the girlfriend went to the hospital and Walden went to jail. For those who see the world, or these situations at least, as black and white (and not both parties being partially at fault), they had a 50/50 shot when jumping to the conclusion Walden was at fault. And to be fair, in spite of the anecdotal evidence presented in this thread to the contrary, statistics show it is the male in these situations usually mostly at fault.
     
  11. 13 Times Champs

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    At the risk of incurring additional wrath I want to make one final comment on this. Walden has not been declared innocent at this point. Brown County District Attorney John Zakowski is determining if Walden will be charged when he goes to court December 7 with domestic abuse, disorderly conduct or nothing at all. As far as her changing her story he is quoted as saying "it's not unusual for victims in domestic abuse cases to lie, because they often decide they don't want their loved one charged with a crime."
     
  12. TJV

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    I agree with all of what you just posted, 13 Times Champs. Particularly with the obvious point he may be charged with something or nothing at all. And I'll add he may have caused her injuries or he may not have. That is the point of not jumping to conclusions.
     
  13. neilfii

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    And he never will be. Courts do not find individuals to be innocent. They are either found "guilty" or "not guilty"; not "guilty" or "innocent". That's part of the problem -- even if he is innocent the stigma will remain.
     
  14. 13 Times Champs

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    ok then he hasn't been declared not guilty. :rolleyes:
     
  15. PackwillBEback

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    That's stupid. I can allege you of a crime and then say the courts have not adjudicated you to be not guilty yet and people will hold it against you. Wonderful.
     
  16. longtimefan

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    Until news comes one way or the other this will be locked...We are just butting heads, no need to cause arguments when not needed
     
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    http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/135156348.html


     
  18. Dan115

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    I wonder if The Packers will take any action.
     
  19. longtimefan

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    Its disorderly conduct..I doubt they will do anything
     
  20. bozz_2006

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    If found guilty he will probably pay just a small fine, if he has no serious priors. I can't imagine the team or the league would take any action.
     
  21. Croak

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    I don't know. I'm not sure I like the idea of someone representing the Packers who is as big as he is and needs to push women around to make his point. I guess the funny thing is, I would probably ok if he got arrested for a bar fight with other big men. But pushing women around? C'mon man.
     
  22. longtimefan

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    Can you show me where it says he pushed a lady around?

    I see where she did the abuse, but nothing about him?
     
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