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<blockquote data-quote="HardRightEdge" data-source="post: 689976"><p>That's why I gave you a "qualified agree". We just don't know Wolf's take, or what he would have done in scouting if his hands were not tied assuming they were in fact tied. He's a mystery for those not in the room. If "front office" is liberally interpreted as including McCarthy, who would certainly have input into the personnel process, it would not surprise me if he were unhappy with the approach.</p><p></p><p>The Packers have fallen into the same track as the Saints following their Superbowl win. Excluding 2012 in the wake of Bountygate and Peyton's suspension, the Saints were a playoff team over a 4 year period, went 2-3 in the postseason, and couldn't put together back-to-back wins to advance.</p><p></p><p>In year 5 post-SB, they slipped to 7-9, followed by 7-9 and now 4-6.</p><p></p><p>Mickey Loomis has been the GM throughout.</p><p></p><p>While the Packers made the playoffs in their 5th. year post-SB, there was notable slippage after the 6-0 start, where they were clearly overmatched by Denver, Carolina and Arizona.</p><p></p><p>Like the Packers, New Orleans' cornerstone is a Hall of Fame QB (yes, Dorothy, Rodgers is definitely in that conversation, McGinn notwithstanding). The Saints have fielded some weak defenses; the running game has been up and down; they have struggled to simply outscore opponents. They look best when Brees is in ball control passing mode.</p><p></p><p>It's a function of paying core players who won, while slippage at the margins has accumulated.</p><p></p><p>Were the Packers to stay the course, I see a similar fate where there's no path to reversing the slippage given current cap commitments. Some creative destruction is in order, and you can't expect that from the guys who will just do what they've always been doing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HardRightEdge, post: 689976"] That's why I gave you a "qualified agree". We just don't know Wolf's take, or what he would have done in scouting if his hands were not tied assuming they were in fact tied. He's a mystery for those not in the room. If "front office" is liberally interpreted as including McCarthy, who would certainly have input into the personnel process, it would not surprise me if he were unhappy with the approach. The Packers have fallen into the same track as the Saints following their Superbowl win. Excluding 2012 in the wake of Bountygate and Peyton's suspension, the Saints were a playoff team over a 4 year period, went 2-3 in the postseason, and couldn't put together back-to-back wins to advance. In year 5 post-SB, they slipped to 7-9, followed by 7-9 and now 4-6. Mickey Loomis has been the GM throughout. While the Packers made the playoffs in their 5th. year post-SB, there was notable slippage after the 6-0 start, where they were clearly overmatched by Denver, Carolina and Arizona. Like the Packers, New Orleans' cornerstone is a Hall of Fame QB (yes, Dorothy, Rodgers is definitely in that conversation, McGinn notwithstanding). The Saints have fielded some weak defenses; the running game has been up and down; they have struggled to simply outscore opponents. They look best when Brees is in ball control passing mode. It's a function of paying core players who won, while slippage at the margins has accumulated. Were the Packers to stay the course, I see a similar fate where there's no path to reversing the slippage given current cap commitments. Some creative destruction is in order, and you can't expect that from the guys who will just do what they've always been doing. [/QUOTE]
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