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<blockquote data-quote="net" data-source="post: 151113" data-attributes="member: 200"><p>Here's the proverbial rub: would you prefer to return to the pre-Internet times?</p><p></p><p>1) It's not going to happen.</p><p></p><p>2)Your opinion above probably would exist to anyone on this website.</p><p></p><p>Having thought much of this through long ago, I concluded it's better to have the info than to not have it. With all the info comes judgement. Yes, at times, too quick. But 'dems da times, as they say.</p><p></p><p>How short is too quick to judge? Lombardi came in and had the team in the NFL championship game within two seasons. Anyone sniffing the Lombardi Trophy next year at 1265 Lombardi? </p><p></p><p>Regarding the Packers the team has always had this kind of buzz around it. When I first started getting interested in them in the '60's, the Lombardi players all had "rumors" around them. The team was the talk of the town, everyday. What has changed is folks like all of us can talk about them to a wider group.</p><p></p><p>The argument you make above about the information being unfiltered is specious. Before the internet people were ticked at the media filter. Now the filter is removed by technology, but you either believe or not believe websites. It all has something to do with the credibility of the author. Jay Glazer, as an example, makes it a profession of breaking news stories based on fact. I tend to believe what he says, based on his record.</p><p>Even the best get it wrong sometimes, but overall, the legit media(dissed by the Internet sites) works to get it right, contrary to what some think.</p><p></p><p>Even with all the 'info' we still don't know the day-to-day and probably never will. The problem with football is the long off-season. Baseball is off about 100 days, basketball about 4 months...but the off-season in football goes on for six months, then there's only about 20 games to watch. We all get bored with the inactivity.</p><p></p><p>The one thing that has changed since the '60 is the fan. The fans today have less patience, and that's a GOOD THING. The fans from the 70's to the 90's tolerated one bad team after another. We did our best, I was at the exhibition game against the Broncos where the Packers fans started cheering for Denver. It got that bad under Bart Starr's coaching reign.</p><p>But the media was forgiving, and without the Internet and other attention, everyone just sat on their hands.</p><p></p><p>A bit of impatience by the fans is a good thing. TT thinks he's a genius and can run the show HIS WAY. Well, we'll see if that happens to our satisfaction.</p><p></p><p>I'm quick to judge that being quick to judge is a good thing overall for a franchise that hasn't seen much winning recently. This is the way the fans in New York have been for generations and it is now just coming to Wisconsin. But the ultimate judge is the results.</p><p></p><p>So far, under Ted Thompson and his two coaches the team has won 12 games in two years. Prior to Ted's arrival, the reviled Mike Sherman had a consistent winner. </p><p></p><p>Go figure.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="net, post: 151113, member: 200"] Here's the proverbial rub: would you prefer to return to the pre-Internet times? 1) It's not going to happen. 2)Your opinion above probably would exist to anyone on this website. Having thought much of this through long ago, I concluded it's better to have the info than to not have it. With all the info comes judgement. Yes, at times, too quick. But 'dems da times, as they say. How short is too quick to judge? Lombardi came in and had the team in the NFL championship game within two seasons. Anyone sniffing the Lombardi Trophy next year at 1265 Lombardi? Regarding the Packers the team has always had this kind of buzz around it. When I first started getting interested in them in the '60's, the Lombardi players all had "rumors" around them. The team was the talk of the town, everyday. What has changed is folks like all of us can talk about them to a wider group. The argument you make above about the information being unfiltered is specious. Before the internet people were ticked at the media filter. Now the filter is removed by technology, but you either believe or not believe websites. It all has something to do with the credibility of the author. Jay Glazer, as an example, makes it a profession of breaking news stories based on fact. I tend to believe what he says, based on his record. Even the best get it wrong sometimes, but overall, the legit media(dissed by the Internet sites) works to get it right, contrary to what some think. Even with all the 'info' we still don't know the day-to-day and probably never will. The problem with football is the long off-season. Baseball is off about 100 days, basketball about 4 months...but the off-season in football goes on for six months, then there's only about 20 games to watch. We all get bored with the inactivity. The one thing that has changed since the '60 is the fan. The fans today have less patience, and that's a GOOD THING. The fans from the 70's to the 90's tolerated one bad team after another. We did our best, I was at the exhibition game against the Broncos where the Packers fans started cheering for Denver. It got that bad under Bart Starr's coaching reign. But the media was forgiving, and without the Internet and other attention, everyone just sat on their hands. A bit of impatience by the fans is a good thing. TT thinks he's a genius and can run the show HIS WAY. Well, we'll see if that happens to our satisfaction. I'm quick to judge that being quick to judge is a good thing overall for a franchise that hasn't seen much winning recently. This is the way the fans in New York have been for generations and it is now just coming to Wisconsin. But the ultimate judge is the results. So far, under Ted Thompson and his two coaches the team has won 12 games in two years. Prior to Ted's arrival, the reviled Mike Sherman had a consistent winner. Go figure. [/QUOTE]
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