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Do we now go CB in the 1st rd?
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<blockquote data-quote="DCEBB2011" data-source="post: 312335" data-attributes="member: 3200"><p>First and foremost, I never once said he was good in coverage. I just said that he was a first round talent. Now, how ever you want to break that down, feel free. But there were several reasons he had a first round grade, and I stand by that assessment.</p><p></p><p>If you read our analysis, you will note that we did state that he has tight hips in man coverage. But teams knew that he was most valuable in the box or in deep zone coverage anyhow.</p><p></p><p>I think abysmal is a bit of a strong word to describe him in coverage anyway. Perhaps if you stated the difference between his skills in man vs. zone coverages you would have made your point a bit less blurry. Feel free to disagree with that assessment and take anything I say with a "huge grain of salt" as I would expect nothing less than skepticism on a forum of all places.</p><p></p><p>I also believe you misquoted Clay Matthews' time of 6.90 as 3.90. Which you should consider is what makes Matthews as successful as he is. Perhaps it is better to argue that Matthews shows the agility of a Safety instead of saying that Mays shows less agility than a LB. This is because the average 3-cone time for a FS eligible for last year's draft was 7.01 compared to 7.15 for all LBs. It shows that both were above the average for their respected positions.</p><p></p><p>The freakish combination of size and speed that Mays possesses is what made him a talented, but raw prospect. The first round grade was applied because of his pure potential. Could he turn out to be great? Of course he could, which would make a lot of people look foolish for passing on him. And of course he is going to struggle as a rookie... most do. I recall another 3rd round safety for our very Packers getting destroyed for TDs against stiff competition this year (Megatron had at least one as I recall).</p><p></p><p>Keep in mind that I am not trying to make an argument for Mays, but instead am backing up the process that I use to pay my bills. We take great pride in our analysis at NFLDS and I take great pride in providing the best data to fellow Packer fans. The big thing to consider is that players fall almost unexpectedly. Look at Aaron Rodgers! He was a consensus top 2 pick and fell to 24! Players are always going to fall in drafts for uncertain reasons. The best we can do is speculate why, but in truth we will almost always never know for sure. I guarantee the same thing will happen this year, and the year after that, and so on because that is the nature of the beast. But if you ask me, I prefer to at least try to understand the process and take guesses instead of sitting by idly...or you can take all that with a grain of salt.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DCEBB2011, post: 312335, member: 3200"] First and foremost, I never once said he was good in coverage. I just said that he was a first round talent. Now, how ever you want to break that down, feel free. But there were several reasons he had a first round grade, and I stand by that assessment. If you read our analysis, you will note that we did state that he has tight hips in man coverage. But teams knew that he was most valuable in the box or in deep zone coverage anyhow. I think abysmal is a bit of a strong word to describe him in coverage anyway. Perhaps if you stated the difference between his skills in man vs. zone coverages you would have made your point a bit less blurry. Feel free to disagree with that assessment and take anything I say with a "huge grain of salt" as I would expect nothing less than skepticism on a forum of all places. I also believe you misquoted Clay Matthews' time of 6.90 as 3.90. Which you should consider is what makes Matthews as successful as he is. Perhaps it is better to argue that Matthews shows the agility of a Safety instead of saying that Mays shows less agility than a LB. This is because the average 3-cone time for a FS eligible for last year's draft was 7.01 compared to 7.15 for all LBs. It shows that both were above the average for their respected positions. The freakish combination of size and speed that Mays possesses is what made him a talented, but raw prospect. The first round grade was applied because of his pure potential. Could he turn out to be great? Of course he could, which would make a lot of people look foolish for passing on him. And of course he is going to struggle as a rookie... most do. I recall another 3rd round safety for our very Packers getting destroyed for TDs against stiff competition this year (Megatron had at least one as I recall). Keep in mind that I am not trying to make an argument for Mays, but instead am backing up the process that I use to pay my bills. We take great pride in our analysis at NFLDS and I take great pride in providing the best data to fellow Packer fans. The big thing to consider is that players fall almost unexpectedly. Look at Aaron Rodgers! He was a consensus top 2 pick and fell to 24! Players are always going to fall in drafts for uncertain reasons. The best we can do is speculate why, but in truth we will almost always never know for sure. I guarantee the same thing will happen this year, and the year after that, and so on because that is the nature of the beast. But if you ask me, I prefer to at least try to understand the process and take guesses instead of sitting by idly...or you can take all that with a grain of salt. [/QUOTE]
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