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DJ Smith > AJ Hawk ?
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<blockquote data-quote="TJV" data-source="post: 449655" data-attributes="member: 4300"><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">All of the following is just my opinion:</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">As it is applied to the NFL draft, "reach" is a term that should be used without the benefit of "NFL career" hindsight while "bust" or "mistake" or similar terms which incorporate an analysis of the players NFL careers as it relates to where the player was drafted, must be used <em>with</em> the benefit of that hindsight. "Reach" is best applied to the selection of a player significantly earlier in the draft than the general - or better overwhelming -consensus of draft experts predicted. Or it can properly be used by fans before the player's worth in the NFL has been determined. </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">A reach can turn out to be a horrible pick or a fantastic pick, or anything in between. </span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">For example, I remember some draft experts and Packers fans called the selection of Nick Collins a reach when he was selected at #51 in the second round as some considered him a fourth rounder. In hindsight it's obvious Collins had first round talent so what many considered a reach turned out to be a brilliant pick. OTOH, the picks of Tony Mandarich and Ryan Leaf, for example, were not reaches but turned out to be busts. But I don't recall anyone yelling "reach" at the selection of either. </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">So IMO the pick of AJ Hawk was neither a reach at the time nor is he a bust in hindsight. Selecting him at #5 in the draft just turns out to be a mistake of one degree or another. </span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TJV, post: 449655, member: 4300"] [FONT=Tahoma]All of the following is just my opinion:[/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma]As it is applied to the NFL draft, "reach" is a term that should be used without the benefit of "NFL career" hindsight while "bust" or "mistake" or similar terms which incorporate an analysis of the players NFL careers as it relates to where the player was drafted, must be used [I]with[/I] the benefit of that hindsight. "Reach" is best applied to the selection of a player significantly earlier in the draft than the general - or better overwhelming -consensus of draft experts predicted. Or it can properly be used by fans before the player's worth in the NFL has been determined. [/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma]A reach can turn out to be a horrible pick or a fantastic pick, or anything in between. [/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]For example, I remember some draft experts and Packers fans called the selection of Nick Collins a reach when he was selected at #51 in the second round as some considered him a fourth rounder. In hindsight it's obvious Collins had first round talent so what many considered a reach turned out to be a brilliant pick. OTOH, the picks of Tony Mandarich and Ryan Leaf, for example, were not reaches but turned out to be busts. But I don't recall anyone yelling "reach" at the selection of either. [/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma]So IMO the pick of AJ Hawk was neither a reach at the time nor is he a bust in hindsight. Selecting him at #5 in the draft just turns out to be a mistake of one degree or another. [/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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