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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dantés" data-source="post: 826879" data-attributes="member: 12283">Sometimes those guys are big time leaders and sometimes those guys are big time annoyances to their teammates. Jameis Winston appears to be a leader from a distance. Come to find out his coach had to tell him to stop talking so much because his teammates thought he was annoying ("who wants to eat a W?!").I actually buy that Devin White has leadership qualities. I really do. The odds that every report would indicate as much and it not be true seem slim to me. But you lose me when you say that he must have way better leadership skills than Bush. I don't see how we can possibly compare the two that way. It assumes not only that White is a leader, but how good of one he is and how lesser of one Bush is... it's so subjective, ethereal and unknowable, at least in this case. If Bush was a head case who had done something tangible like quit on his team in college or something, I could understand. But he was a team captain on a defense loaded with future NFL players.</blockquote>

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