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<blockquote data-quote="GleefulGary" data-source="post: 821092" data-attributes="member: 12583"><p>But we've already seen LVE be very good in the NFL. Everybody knows I don't take PFF as the gospel, but it does help us evaluate a lot. According to PFF, LVE was the 4th best ILB in the NFL, as a rookie. I mean, even if that is his ceiling, and given his rare athletic traits and rare starting point it seems incredibly unlikely, that's still a very good player! </p><p></p><p>You can't just say Hawk was a good athlete and didn't turn out, so that means that LVE might not improve. We've already seen LVE have a better year then Hawk ever did! I mean, the guy is 6'5 255 and he's running routes for Alvin Kamara. Do you understand how freakish that is? He came in for Sean Lee, one of the smartest players in the league, and pretty much kept him on the bench. He's 22 and 4-5 years ago he was playing 8 man football! Limited ceiling?! </p><p></p><p>And fwiw, the reason Hawk wasn't good wasn't because of his leadership skills. Leadership skills do not make you a better player as far as on the field play. They can make your team better certainly, but being a better leader wasn't going to allow Hawk to get more tackles or be in better position.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GleefulGary, post: 821092, member: 12583"] But we've already seen LVE be very good in the NFL. Everybody knows I don't take PFF as the gospel, but it does help us evaluate a lot. According to PFF, LVE was the 4th best ILB in the NFL, as a rookie. I mean, even if that is his ceiling, and given his rare athletic traits and rare starting point it seems incredibly unlikely, that's still a very good player! You can't just say Hawk was a good athlete and didn't turn out, so that means that LVE might not improve. We've already seen LVE have a better year then Hawk ever did! I mean, the guy is 6'5 255 and he's running routes for Alvin Kamara. Do you understand how freakish that is? He came in for Sean Lee, one of the smartest players in the league, and pretty much kept him on the bench. He's 22 and 4-5 years ago he was playing 8 man football! Limited ceiling?! And fwiw, the reason Hawk wasn't good wasn't because of his leadership skills. Leadership skills do not make you a better player as far as on the field play. They can make your team better certainly, but being a better leader wasn't going to allow Hawk to get more tackles or be in better position. [/QUOTE]
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