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<blockquote data-quote="mradtke66" data-source="post: 942782" data-attributes="member: 4199"><p>I'm going to pick on you since you said it first.</p><p></p><p>Please explain how and why a 4-3 would be a better run defense than a 3-4. Conventional wisdom says the 3-4 is the better run defense.</p><p></p><p>Ignore the position labels.</p><p></p><p>A 3-4 trots out 3 linemen of defensive tackle size. Keke is the light man in our DT group at 288. He's still a 3T technique tackle in any 4-3.</p><p></p><p>Our two "outside linebackers" are 4-3 defensive ends. Hell, our top 2/3 are oversized 4-3 ends. Gary and Z at 275 could be strong side DEs each. And we can and do play them on the weak/open side. At worse, one 3-4 OLB is slightly undersized (and they are not with our roster!) than a 4-3 DE, but our other OLB is bigger than the matching 4-3 strong-side OLB. And on running plays, most 4-3s are effectively 5 man fronts--All 4 down lineman and the SOLB. Thats 4-3 SOLB is most typically on the LOS to jam and attack the TE...just like our SOLB.</p><p></p><p>And then we get into gap assignments. When we shade (find our NT. If he is truly head up on the center, he's a 0. If he's in the A gap/outside shoulder of the center, he's a shade or 1 technique) his responsibilities are the gap he's lined up in. Just like modern 4-3s. From there, find the gap the lineman is lined up in. That's his gap. If there isn't a lineman in a gap, look for the off the ball linebacker. 4-3 calls them Middle (MIKE) and Weak Outside (WILL). In a 3-4, they are called Strong Inside (MACK) and Weak Inside (BUCK). MIKE is a 1:1 to MACK.</p><p></p><p>WILL is almost a 1:1 to BUCK. Personnel wise, they are 1:1. The only real difference is where they line up/which gap is their responsibility. BUCK will typically line up 1 gap closer to the ball. Most schemes I've seen have the BUCK covering a B gap while WILL has the C gap and/or outside contain. Pass responsibilities, man-to-man for the back that releases to their side, are the same.</p><p></p><p>In a similar thought, gun to our head if we had to run a 4-3 tomorrow, we'd trot out the same grouping of personnel we do today. </p><p></p><p>So what's the difference?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mradtke66, post: 942782, member: 4199"] I'm going to pick on you since you said it first. Please explain how and why a 4-3 would be a better run defense than a 3-4. Conventional wisdom says the 3-4 is the better run defense. Ignore the position labels. A 3-4 trots out 3 linemen of defensive tackle size. Keke is the light man in our DT group at 288. He's still a 3T technique tackle in any 4-3. Our two "outside linebackers" are 4-3 defensive ends. Hell, our top 2/3 are oversized 4-3 ends. Gary and Z at 275 could be strong side DEs each. And we can and do play them on the weak/open side. At worse, one 3-4 OLB is slightly undersized (and they are not with our roster!) than a 4-3 DE, but our other OLB is bigger than the matching 4-3 strong-side OLB. And on running plays, most 4-3s are effectively 5 man fronts--All 4 down lineman and the SOLB. Thats 4-3 SOLB is most typically on the LOS to jam and attack the TE...just like our SOLB. And then we get into gap assignments. When we shade (find our NT. If he is truly head up on the center, he's a 0. If he's in the A gap/outside shoulder of the center, he's a shade or 1 technique) his responsibilities are the gap he's lined up in. Just like modern 4-3s. From there, find the gap the lineman is lined up in. That's his gap. If there isn't a lineman in a gap, look for the off the ball linebacker. 4-3 calls them Middle (MIKE) and Weak Outside (WILL). In a 3-4, they are called Strong Inside (MACK) and Weak Inside (BUCK). MIKE is a 1:1 to MACK. WILL is almost a 1:1 to BUCK. Personnel wise, they are 1:1. The only real difference is where they line up/which gap is their responsibility. BUCK will typically line up 1 gap closer to the ball. Most schemes I've seen have the BUCK covering a B gap while WILL has the C gap and/or outside contain. Pass responsibilities, man-to-man for the back that releases to their side, are the same. In a similar thought, gun to our head if we had to run a 4-3 tomorrow, we'd trot out the same grouping of personnel we do today. So what's the difference? [/QUOTE]
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