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<blockquote data-quote="Dantés" data-source="post: 761701" data-attributes="member: 12283"><p>I tried to go to lengths to say that that's exactly NOT what I mean.</p><p></p><p>My point, which you may disagree with and that's fine, is that Wisconsin's personnel and system have inflated running back statistics for a long time and has gotten a number of them drafted ahead of where their talent dictated (in my opinion), they belonged. Thus you get a mediocre talent like Montee Ball taken in the 2nd, a top 100 level talent like Gordon taken mid-1, etc. </p><p></p><p>I would never strike a guy at a position off a list because of school. But if there's a pattern and logical connection between a program and a position (e.g. "this system can tend to inflate guys' numbers"), I would certainly consider that as one of the factors, like you said above. </p><p></p><p>Prior to the 2015 draft, I was still a San Diego Chargers fan and they needed a back in the worst way. A lot of fans wanted Gordon. I watched and rewatched almost every game he played in 2014. When I raised concerns about his game (e.g. poor vision between the tackles), I was usually met with arguments regarding his gaudy statistics. And that's exactly why Badger backs have gotten overhyped. The offense gets them huge numbers and their shortcomings get glossed by the numbers. But unfortunately, you can't bring the stats with you to the NFL. </p><p></p><p>Suffice it to say I was furious when the Chargers not only drafted Gordon round one, but traded up to do so. But had he fallen into the next round, I would have been happy to take him. I'm not against the players, I'm against the value inflation.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dantés, post: 761701, member: 12283"] I tried to go to lengths to say that that's exactly NOT what I mean. My point, which you may disagree with and that's fine, is that Wisconsin's personnel and system have inflated running back statistics for a long time and has gotten a number of them drafted ahead of where their talent dictated (in my opinion), they belonged. Thus you get a mediocre talent like Montee Ball taken in the 2nd, a top 100 level talent like Gordon taken mid-1, etc. I would never strike a guy at a position off a list because of school. But if there's a pattern and logical connection between a program and a position (e.g. "this system can tend to inflate guys' numbers"), I would certainly consider that as one of the factors, like you said above. Prior to the 2015 draft, I was still a San Diego Chargers fan and they needed a back in the worst way. A lot of fans wanted Gordon. I watched and rewatched almost every game he played in 2014. When I raised concerns about his game (e.g. poor vision between the tackles), I was usually met with arguments regarding his gaudy statistics. And that's exactly why Badger backs have gotten overhyped. The offense gets them huge numbers and their shortcomings get glossed by the numbers. But unfortunately, you can't bring the stats with you to the NFL. Suffice it to say I was furious when the Chargers not only drafted Gordon round one, but traded up to do so. But had he fallen into the next round, I would have been happy to take him. I'm not against the players, I'm against the value inflation. [/QUOTE]
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