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Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by tynimiller, Aug 31, 2012.

  1. GreenBlood

    GreenBlood Banned Banned

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    No, you're not the only one. I would keep Gurley over Driver for several reasons. He's more of a redzone threat with his size. He's at the beginning of his career, rather than the end. And most importantly, he's a solid contributor on special teams, which is something Driver does not do.
     
  2. Einstein McFly

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    I didn't say I thought he was worth a third, I said I thought taking anything less would be dumb. I don't think anyone will go that high though, for the reason you said. He's worth more to us than to other teams.
     
  3. ThxJackVainisi

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    I’ve advocated for Driver’s departure too. Here in the official Driver thread (so much for “official”!):
    http://www.packerforum.com/threads/this-is-the-official-driver-thread.36280/#post-444978

    While it looks like Boykin will make the final roster (he’s the only “extra” WR left with a chance) I do think it’s fair to say none of Boykin, Gurley, or Borel made Thompson keep them and that is disappointing to me. And it’s not like Thompson hasn’t kept “extra” players if he and his staff think the players kept are deserving (eg 3 FBs). I thought Driver’s roster spot was secured as soon as he signed his deal with significant guaranteed money as long as he didn’t get injured.

    BTW, I am anxiously awaiting the news of who Thompson acquires to backup LT.
     
  4. ArizonaPackerFan

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    I wonder if they will try to sign Muir after the first game, then cut him again after Neil's suspension is over. Whatever D-lineman they keep on the roster now they have to pay him for the entire season. If they bring a D-lineman back after the first game, they can pay him on a per game basis then cut him when Neal is added to the roster without having to pay him for the entire season. Would not surprise me if they tried that for a few weeks with Wynn or Muir until Neal gets back. No sense paying a D-lineman a full years salary if you plan on cutting him anyway in a few weeks when Neil returns.
     
  5. 7thFloorRA

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    Now Sherrod is on the PUP list??? Boykin makes the roster and they are rolling with an extremely thin o-line?? Something else must be up.
     
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  6. 60six

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    ....and cut who? This makes no sense.

    They already have to make a cut when Waldon gets back, also when they sign an OT off waivers.
     
  7. HyponGrey

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    7 is incredibly thin for OL, but its apparently not like any of them were really worth keeping.
    6 WR was expected, but am I the only one who thinks Driver could get cut mid season when pup ends?
    I think Muir getting cut and the retention of 11 DB shows the team wanted "change" on defense. Nickels and dimes...
    11 (including Walden) deep at LB might be overdoing it a bit.
    Starks you have one chance to redeem yourself!!!
    Teds ways are above my ways...
     
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  8. DevilDon

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    Agreed, something doesn't add up. What good does a sixth WR do for you if you can't hold the line together. Barclay did make the roster but still. I think there will be Packer roster news tomorrow or very soon.
     
  9. GreenBlood

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    Not mid-season. I think Starks or Saine would get cut first.
     
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  10. JBlood

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    I'd keep DD because of his performance in the Giants game--the only receiver to show up and play like he wanted to win. Good example for the young guys who may shy away from going over the middle.
     
  11. DevilDon

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    I'm kind of pumped Richardson made the roster too. Packers can use a guy like that against running teams like the 9ers.
    I know Muir is a shock but my belief is that the Packers staff saw the potential in Merling that made him such a high draft pick. I think they believe they can coach him up in the next four weeks or drop him when Neal comes back. He has improved in camp.
     
  12. JoshuaRHuffman

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    So it looks as though the Packers kept 7 OL AND 11 defensive backs. Brandian Ross apparently made it too...

    Tramon Williams
    Jarrett Bush
    Casey Hayward
    Davon House
    Sam Shields
    Brandian Ross

    Charles Woodson
    Morgan Burnett
    Jerron McMillian
    M.D. Jennings
    Sean Richardson

    Brad Jones also made the team. Bleh.
     
  13. FrankRizzo

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    The Packers will be bringing in another OL for sure.
    Also, I don't like letting Muir go.
    www.packersinsider.com
     
  14. 7thFloorRA

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    I think Starks goes on IR and gets designated as the player to return to clear up 1 roster spot....or House but I really hope he is ready to rock now and not 10 weeks from now.

    Richardson or Ross goes when Walden is back.
     
  15. Shawnsta3

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    Not sure which I'm more surprised about- keeping 5 safeties, or 6 CB's?
     
  16. 60six

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    Well, they always kept 6 CBs since TT has been here. Ross is the odd man out when Walden comes back or we get an OT this week.

    I would say Saine is #50.......Manning #51......Boykin #52....... Ross #53 on the roster. Look for a couple of these guys to move on after some moves are made.
     
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    Chris Scott formerly of the Steelers to the PS
     
  18. HyponGrey

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    Suspended: Walden Neal
    Pup: Sherrod Quarless Brooks Zombo

    Cuts:

    Walden in, Francois out. Lattimore and Jones are above him on the depth chart, Manning, a draft pick this year who had an unfortunate offseason situation is the only one behind him. I would actually hope more for Jones, but the CS like him too much. Given our excessive depth at LB, it makes sense to me that another LB gets cut.

    Neal in, Merling cut. Merling is our Bandaid FA until Neal gets back. TT signed a lot of FA this season. He also already released most of them.

    Quarless in, Taylor cut. DJ Williams had a terrific preseason and Crabtree has started developing some dimension to his game. Taylor did not have the kind of preseason needed to save his job when Quarless returns and it is unlikely he will get the chance to redeem himself during the season. Especially considering injury will probably diminish his ST production.

    Sherrod/House/Starks to IR. Sherrod Needs to come back: FACT. Unfortunately at this point we have no clue if Sherrod will even be healthy enough to come back, and with his limited development it will be hard to expect much of anything out of him. It is also likely that House winds up dislocating his shoulder again, or Starks winds up out yet again with yet another injury because he can't get his pads down.

    Zombo cut. His injury history is a giant black strike against him, and he's better at coverage than rushing but hasn't had cross training for ILB. Yet the final nail for the coffin is the depth we currently have at the LB position.

    Brooks to IR. Really he should have started the season there. He's an undersized interior lineman with experience in a zone blocking scheme who didn't do anything with the Packers after signing with them because of a knee injury. The Pack was rumored to want to give him cross training at center. With the emergence of Barclay, Brooks is as expendable as he is inexperienced. Look for him to be switched to IR.
     
  19. Shawnsta3

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    Read this as soo sarcastic until I realized the guy's username is actually Einstein lol
     
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  20. Shawnsta3

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    I honestly wouldn't even do this considering Long's 123,423 million dollar contract. Also giving up JJ, who most of you already know my feelings on him, Our perennial leading tackler, and all-pro special teams player who can also play every position in the d backfield. That's a lot to give up in return for a position we've spent 1st and... 5th round picks on I think??
     
  21. Shawnsta3

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    Crazy to think about how much these suspensions/PUP players will affect how many players on this roster we'll have to drop mid-season.
     
  22. HardRightEdge

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    Long will be a free agent after this year. Whaddayathink? $11 mil per year maybe? Joe Thomas got an 8 year deal at $11.5 mil per year at this time last year, and Long is not quite that player.

    Hawk is at about $6.75 per + Bush is at $1.75 per + JJ is at about $3.1 per = about $11.6 for the next couple years anyway.

    It's possible it could work for us I think, but why would MIA do such a thing? I guess I'm still having trouble with those icon faces. Which one would be best to communicate "dead pan humor"? ;) It seems any one of them would indicate some kind of humor was involved.

    Seriously, though, 5th. round picks are not a big deal...trade fodder to move up a few spots in the second round...and the prognosis for the 1st. rounder is not exactly rosey. Clearly we're gonna dance this year with the ones who brung us. However, if Newhouse does not show further development and Sherrod does not recover to some serviceable level, we could be looking for a guy next off season/draft.
     
  23. HardRightEdge

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    Lair, Bennett, Brooks waived off IR/PUP.
     
  24. HardRightEdge

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    So'oto waived off IR with injury settlement.
     
  25. HyponGrey

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    Ross cut
     

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